i will say he's right... i know i pirated and i admit it.. unlike some... its called test driving.

I wasn't pirating it. :p.

I meant I wasn't...and I didn't. I was jsut stating that.I admined at another board and would often go and look at good hacks in the hak db. :p

I pirated it. Yar.
That is, it didn't actually make it onto my live site. vB3 at least. vB2 made it onto one of my previous hosting accounts, but never saw any actual posting.
I was a coding n00b and was testing whether or not I had a shot at getting the RPG over to vB myself.
I agree fully with Ken whe he says that demos don't cut it. The only thing that cuts it is to see a fully functional version working on YOUR forum and if it suits YOUR needs. With the following, Im not trying to resurrect that whole "Should Jelsoft change their policy" or "Does piracy benefit the industry" discussion again, but I must say that I would never have spent $160 on vB if it weren't for me having tried a pirate version. I know a lot of people can say the same.

I never pirated vB - My friend owned one and I took charge in modifying it - That's what got me interested, and what got me to buy my first licence :)

Satan

i got the same advantage, working on a vb of someone else :)

Same here, plus the past experance with ubb helped a bit ;).