but I thought using ? just passes it to another form and doesnt allow it to be submitted. That's the impression I got from http://tech.irt.org/articles/js063/index.htm

How old are you? Just wondering..

Create a form and put some fake fields in it.
Make it's method POST.
Submit it and look at the URL.
Change it's mehtod to GET.
Submit it and look at the URL.

That's their difference.

I see, GET passes the values in the URL. How does POST pass the values?

I looked at some GET vs POST answered questions at ASKasp.com and found some answers. With GET data is unsecure and limited to 250 chars, but visible in the address bar, POST sends the data to the server which processes it?

yup makes sense, like replying to this thread uses post. Ed is basically saying we can use his trick only if the resulting script will allow data input by the GET method. then it will work. If it dosen't (and i am betting everyone.net dosen't) and they use only POST then, we are i think, stuck.

If you want to use POST (you can go get this way too), you have to use sockets: http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.fsockopen.php

On the side, just saw anti-trust (only plays late at nite for some reason).

I find it interesting that the head of NURV (the MS like company) looks very much like Mr. Gates.

The movie kind of creeped me out. I keep taking looks over my shoulder now and then.
You should see it.
I give it a B+.

Thank god there is a way. I guess this is sort of like my crusade to find the holy grail.

-Eugene

$fp = fsockopen ("www.php.net", 80, $errno, $errstr, 30);
if (!$fp) {
echo "$errstr ($errno)<br>\n";
} else {
fputs ($fp, "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n");
while (!feof($fp)) {
echo fgets ($fp,128);
}
fclose ($fp);
}

is that what I use? Where do I insert
fopen("http://some.site.com/html/page.html","r")
?

is what i was going to work from but so far havn't had much success, i only tried locally which dosen't work so i think i need to do it on a true domain name, will do this week sometime.

the get method worked fine with: