vb.org Archive

vb.org Archive (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/index.php)
-   Community Lounge (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=13)
-   -   US draft in 2005? (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=65462)

AWS 05-24-2004 10:14 PM

Quote:

I would have gone to Iraq myself if they would have let me.
You might say that now, but if you ever experienced armed battle you would think twice about saying it or about going to battle.
I was drafted in the last draft the US had in 1972. I was watching the news and they listed the top 100 birthdays. If your birthday was one of them you were called to duty. My birthday was the 5TH selected. I got my induction letter about a week later and chose to enlist in the Marines instead the Army.
Call me a draft dodger if you wish, but, knowing what I know now and what I experienced if I had to do it over I would have went to Canada.
I don't regret the service I did for my country, but, I would never do it again unless the battle was on our home soil.

ap0c 05-24-2004 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velocd
The Republican government is hoping for it in June 2005.

It seems they're pushing legislation silently until the election of 2004 is confirmed, so that it doesn't hurt Bush's chances.

.

Kerry and most democrats(non liberals) support this also. The reason it's being kept quiet, congress also has elections this year:)

Scrub 05-24-2004 10:43 PM

Bah! Accidently deleted my last post. :D.

But anyways, AWS, Boofo is ex-military and I belive he has experinced it if I am not mistaken. So, I think he know's what he is talking about. ;)

13th_Disciple 05-24-2004 10:45 PM

BTW.. Canada now has a treaty with the US and will send back folks avoiding the draft and seeking refuge in Canada.. I think that was one of the points either in NAFTA or some arrangement previous to that.. can't remember.. I do know that they will send you back.. Claiming asylum won't help, nor will claiming political refugee status as we are not considered a country in turmoil.. or something along those lines..

Personally, I lived in Canada for awhile back in '99.. and while I found it nice, it didn't feel right.. Nor did I feel welcome.. I was actually very surprised to see the amount of outright hatred towards Americans in Canada..

So often, people tend to forget that the people of a country may not stand beside or even behind the reasoning of their goverment.. People of other locations use a given countries foreign policy as an immediate way to hate those from that country.. I love America.. the good ol' USA and all that.. But if I had to choose anywhere in the world, it would have to be Sweden.. They are, as far as I know, one of the last remaining large, non third world countries, to remain nuetral.. If not the only remaining country that's not considered third world..

Besides, who can resist the Swedish Bikini Team, ffs.. :p

Velocd 05-24-2004 11:39 PM

The better of this argument is not whether this draft should be enacted, or whether it's "cowardice" for someone not to comply with the draft, but to confront the plain concept behind an American draft.

Should the government have the right to send males into military against their will? If so, why not females?

I can't plausibly see how in a government reputable for its civil rights can still shelter a draft resolution. In fact, it seems unconstitutional. I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in my life the draft is made unconstitutional. You cannot take the liberty from anyone in this country, who justly does not deserve so, away.

The other argument is why put people against a war in the military? A military works best with volunteers and people committed to its purpose. Occupying a military with bitter and discrepant individuals will only secure more convulation and tension, then ease.

RichieBoy67 05-25-2004 12:32 AM

This sure would have been a good thread on my board...www.speakoutonline.net

VeoMorphine 05-26-2004 03:31 PM

Congress is Considering Re-enacting the Draft

I decided to post this, just because I think it is a very important issue that will in fact change the way we live our lives.
The United States Congress is considering re-enacting the Draft. It would require all persons age's 18-27 to serve in some capacity for the armed forces. Both men and women will be required to serve. Running to Canada, o attending college will not be options. The United States also has an agreement with Canada to return people who try to dodge the draft by moving to Canada. College students will not be exempt. The Draft will start in June 2005.
You can find the article here:
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/...ua_congressorg

13th_Disciple 05-26-2004 06:06 PM

yeah.. we have been discussing it a bit.. check this link for a bit of background on what all we have discussed..

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=65462

StarBuG 05-26-2004 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13th_Disciple
yeah.. we have been discussing it a bit.. check this link for a bit of background on what all we have discussed..

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=65462

Germany is going to reduce or even drop the draft in the near future hehe

We finaly will be free :D

StarBuG

Rose 05-26-2004 06:28 PM

*draft threads merged together*


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:56 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.12 by vBS
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

X vBulletin 3.8.12 by vBS Debug Information
  • Page Generation 0.01173 seconds
  • Memory Usage 1,740KB
  • Queries Executed 10 (?)
More Information
Template Usage:
  • (1)ad_footer_end
  • (1)ad_footer_start
  • (1)ad_header_end
  • (1)ad_header_logo
  • (1)ad_navbar_below
  • (3)bbcode_quote_printable
  • (1)footer
  • (1)gobutton
  • (1)header
  • (1)headinclude
  • (6)option
  • (1)pagenav
  • (1)pagenav_curpage
  • (2)pagenav_pagelink
  • (1)post_thanks_navbar_search
  • (1)printthread
  • (10)printthreadbit
  • (1)spacer_close
  • (1)spacer_open 

Phrase Groups Available:
  • global
  • postbit
  • showthread
Included Files:
  • ./printthread.php
  • ./global.php
  • ./includes/init.php
  • ./includes/class_core.php
  • ./includes/config.php
  • ./includes/functions.php
  • ./includes/class_hook.php
  • ./includes/modsystem_functions.php
  • ./includes/class_bbcode_alt.php
  • ./includes/class_bbcode.php
  • ./includes/functions_bigthree.php 

Hooks Called:
  • init_startup
  • init_startup_session_setup_start
  • init_startup_session_setup_complete
  • cache_permissions
  • fetch_threadinfo_query
  • fetch_threadinfo
  • fetch_foruminfo
  • style_fetch
  • cache_templates
  • global_start
  • parse_templates
  • global_setup_complete
  • printthread_start
  • pagenav_page
  • pagenav_complete
  • bbcode_fetch_tags
  • bbcode_create
  • bbcode_parse_start
  • bbcode_parse_complete_precache
  • bbcode_parse_complete
  • printthread_post
  • printthread_complete