What Dean said is correct. A copyright is needed on any page that is using vB code. Unless of course you have purchased the bradning free option.

aww he put um back :(

u should have fighted all the way lol

I havent changed a thing.

So what your saying is that every hack ever made is vbulletin copyright because it uses vb code to one degree or another and must carry the vb copyright??? I think there is some misunderstanding of copyright issues here. Unfortunately the copyright holder of vbadvanced hasn't spoken on this regard as I am merely going from Brian told me, and common sense.

Steve, I dont think what Dean said is correct. Lots of programmers have developed code to take advantange of the core vb engine. Those codes are not vb copyright becuase they use vb code. Please explain this to me further.

Max

I guess what I am asking is this...
If a script uses this code -
which uses vb code -

Does this mean that vbulletin copyright must be on it? Man, if that is the case, I got a list for ya.

Max

If this is the case, would that also include any codes that also used the same database as vbulletin? I've got a programmed news script that I want to release, but not under vb copyright. Im just curious as to where exactly vBulletin Copyright ends so I can be sure to not violate in my future scripting.

Obviously the php sql isnt vb copyright, cause it may be necessary to use some identical queries(?).

hrm...

I have given you my opinion on this. Feel free to send in a support ticket and we can refer it to the lawyers for a more detailed answer. I'd rather not spend the money to do this but if it's that important to you then this is what we need to do.

yup it does.

One of those lines used vB code as your including the vB engine therefore its using a lot of vBulletin code.

I contacted vB support back in December of 2002 to ask if the vBulletin copyright info was necessary on other pages that included vBulletin files, but were not created by Jelsoft. Steve answered the ticket and asked for me to give him some examples. I gave him the homepage and a couple of others on my personal site and his reply was this:

Since these are not vB generated pages then I don't believe the copyright is absolutely necessary. I'm not sure I understand your desire to remove it but that's your call.

So that's what I've been going by and told others the couple of times that the question has come up. If this is no longer the case please let me know so that I can be sure to give the correct information should the question ever come up again. :)

Thanks Tigga, I appreciate you stopping in here and posting.

I think this should really be clarified. I was going under the assumption that vb add ons were just that, add ons. Since these "hacks" are not supported at all by vbulletin I have a hard time understanding the logic here. However, I'm not trying to start a fight over copyright and would be happy to include them if necessary.

I actually dont need support on this, Steve, so there is no need for a trouble ticket, I dont think... More confusion. :ermm:

I was actually looking for some constructive criticism as a way to improve my website with this thread.