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SaN-DeeP 05-20-2004 12:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pseudomizer
Hi Sandy,

after having looked through your server config i can not see any misconfiguration so far. I also went to your page. Your start page is HUUUUGE but it loads very fast. But when i go to your forum page there are 2 small stops during the load of the page. I would like to know why this is happening.

Could be due to too much queries or wrong code. I would suggest that you install this hack from Teck https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...ght=microstats which will give you more information about the PHP and the MySQL load on your site.

In addition to this you will see which template is not cached and you can solve this afterwards.

So please install this hack and then we talk again. I think the others should agree to this rather then digging in the dark we should start to find the cause for this. Perhaps it is only one bad hack which you installed.

Cheers,
hello Pseudomizer,
thnx a lot for your replies
as recommended by you. i installed that hack and here is the screenshot for same.
it says 2 uncached templates on going to my forums

I am not sure, what templates are those :S
Please let me know.

Regards,
Sandy...

Pseudomizer 05-20-2004 01:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaN-DeeP
hello Pseudomizer,
thnx a lot for your replies
as recommended by you. i installed that hack and here is the screenshot for same.
it says 2 uncached templates on going to my forums

I am not sure, what templates are those :S
Please let me know.

Regards,
Sandy...
Hi San-Deep,

i am glad that you installed the hack. When i look at your page then it seems for me that your board is running fine. You have high PHP and low MySQL usage. This shows that it has nothing to do with any queries.

The 2 templates which are not cached should not be a big problem. But the fix for this is very easy: Open the PHP file in an editor and look for the templates variable in there. Usually the global templates variable. After the last template just add your 2 missing templates by adding -> , <- this comma and in the next line the template name. This will not be a big performance boost but it will cache the template.

By the way: Will all respect, but i have response times from 0,2 seconds and your site is fast enough. Where is the problem ? On any specific subdirectory or php file ? Because at the moment i would say it is fine.

Question: Did you add your microstat variable also into your portal ? It would be nice to see how many queries are run there.

The only conclusion would be: Your server has a problem as soon as multiple users access your page simultaneously. If this is the case then it could be your MySQL database daemon. Which version of MySQL are you using ?

Cheers,

SaN-DeeP 05-20-2004 01:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pseudomizer
Hi San-Deep,

i am glad that you installed the hack. When i look at your page then it seems for me that your board is running fine. You have high PHP and low MySQL usage. This shows that it has nothing to do with any queries.

The 2 templates which are not cached should not be a big problem. But the fix for this is very easy: Open the PHP file in an editor and look for the templates variable in there. Usually the global templates variable. After the last template just add your 2 missing templates by adding -> , <- this comma and in the next line the template name. This will not be a big performance boost but it will cache the template.

By the way: Will all respect, but i have response times from 0,2 seconds and your site is fast enough. Where is the problem ? On any specific subdirectory or php file ? Because at the moment i would say it is fine.

Question: Did you add your microstat variable also into your portal ? It would be nice to see how many queries are run there.

The only conclusion would be: Your server has a problem as soon as multiple users access your page simultaneously. If this is the case then it could be your MySQL database daemon. Which version of MySQL are you using ?

Cheers,
you are simply fast :) thats great
i opened index.php and global.php both and edited stuff as you directed me to. here is 1 of the changes i have done in index.php file

Original Code
Code:
// pre-cache templates used by all actions
$globaltemplates = array(
 'FORUMHOME',
 'forumhome_event',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level1_nopost',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level1_post',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level2_nopost',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level2_post',
 'forumhome_lastpostby',
 'forumhome_loggedinuser',
 'forumhome_moderator',
 'forumhome_pmloggedin',
 'forumhome_subforumbit_nopost',
 'forumhome_subforumbit_post',
 'forumhome_subforumseparator_nopost',
 'forumhome_subforumseparator_post',
 'forumhome_vbpopup'
);
And Modified Code Check the last line
Code:
 
Original Code

       
Code:

       
// pre-cache templates used by all actions
$globaltemplates = array(
 'FORUMHOME',
 'forumhome_event',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level1_nopost',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level1_post',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level2_nopost',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level2_post',
 'forumhome_lastpostby',
 'forumhome_loggedinuser',
 'forumhome_moderator',
 'forumhome_pmloggedin',
 'forumhome_subforumbit_nopost',
 'forumhome_subforumbit_post',
 'forumhome_subforumseparator_nopost',
 'forumhome_subforumseparator_post',
 'forumhome_vbpopup',
);

did changes like that 2 places in index.php and 2 places in global.php but no luck :(, still it shows 2 uncached templates :S

Microstats on Portal. I am not sure, how to add those there.
But if you want/help we can try out that ;)
I am using Virtuanews -> www.virtuanews.co.uk

Server Type Linux; PHP v4.3.3; Apache v1.3.29
MySQL v4.0.18-standard
PHP Max Post Size 55M
MySQL Maximum Packet Size 16.00 MB
PHP Memory Limit None
Database Index Disk Usage 9.77 MB

Sandy...

Pseudomizer 05-20-2004 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaN-DeeP
you are simply fast :) thats great
i opened index.php and global.php both and edited stuff as you directed me to. here is 1 of the changes i have done in index.php file

Did changes like that 2 places in index.php and 2 places in global.php but no luck :(, still it shows 2 uncached templates :S

Microstats on Portal. I am not sure, how to add those there.
But if you want/help we can try out that ;)
I am using Virtuanews -> www.virtuanews.co.uk

Server Type Linux; PHP v4.3.3; Apache v1.3.29
MySQL v4.0.18-standard
PHP Max Post Size 55M
MySQL Maximum Packet Size 16.00 MB
PHP Memory Limit None
Database Index Disk Usage 9.77 MB

Sandy...
Sorry, but your original code and your modified code is exactly the same. I do not see any changes. Or i am still not awake :-)

You have to to do the following:
PHP Code:
$globaltemplates = array(
 'FORUMHOME',
 'forumhome_event',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level1_nopost',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level1_post',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level2_nopost',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level2_post',
 'forumhome_lastpostby',
 'forumhome_loggedinuser',
 'forumhome_moderator',
 'forumhome_pmloggedin',
 'forumhome_subforumbit_nopost',
 'forumhome_subforumbit_post',
 'forumhome_subforumseparator_nopost',
 'forumhome_subforumseparator_post',
 'forumhome_vbpopup',
 'forumhome_todayloggedinuser',
 'forumhome_todayloggedinusers'
); 
See the last 2 lines. These are new.

Cheers,

SaN-DeeP 05-20-2004 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pseudomizer
Sorry, but your original code and your modified code is exactly the same. I do not see any changes. Or i am still not awake :-)

You have to to do the following:
PHP Code:
$globaltemplates = array(
 'FORUMHOME',
 'forumhome_event',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level1_nopost',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level1_post',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level2_nopost',
 'forumhome_forumbit_level2_post',
 'forumhome_lastpostby',
 'forumhome_loggedinuser',
 'forumhome_moderator',
 'forumhome_pmloggedin',
 'forumhome_subforumbit_nopost',
 'forumhome_subforumbit_post',
 'forumhome_subforumseparator_nopost',
 'forumhome_subforumseparator_post',
 'forumhome_vbpopup',
 'forumhome_todayloggedinuser',
 'forumhome_todayloggedinusers'
); 
See the last 2 lines. These are new.

Cheers,
hi do u want me to add those 2 lines to the index.php and global.php ?

i have added a comma to second last line.

Pseudomizer 05-20-2004 09:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaN-DeeP
hi do u want me to add those 2 lines to the index.php and global.php ?

i have added a comma to second last line.
Only in your index.php. And the end should look like this:

PHP Code:
'forumhome_todayloggedinuser', 
'forumhome_todayloggedinusers' 
); 
and NOT like this:

PHP Code:
'forumhome_todayloggedinuser', 
'forumhome_todayloggedinusers' ,
); 
No comma in the last line.

Cheers,

SaN-DeeP 05-20-2004 10:44 PM
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now it shows 1 uncached template :)

thnx m8

Pseudomizer 05-20-2004 10:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaN-DeeP
now it shows 1 uncached template :)

thnx m8
Hi San-Deep,

this sounds strange. We added both templates into the php file. But it still shows the forumhome_todayloggeninuser template as not cached. Either you typed something wrong or you are not on the index.php file. As soon as you add all templates into the global templates array, all templates should be cached.

Please double check again.

Cheers,

SaN-DeeP 05-21-2004 01:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pseudomizer
Hi San-Deep,

this sounds strange. We added both templates into the php file. But it still shows the forumhome_todayloggeninuser template as not cached. Either you typed something wrong or you are not on the index.php file. As soon as you add all templates into the global templates array, all templates should be cached.

Please double check again.

Cheers,
thnx a lot Pseudomizer,
with your help all the problem is fixed now :)

Thnx for modifying my templates
Its appreicated, we have users like u on vb.org

best regards,
Sandy...

Pseudomizer 05-21-2004 10:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaN-DeeP
thnx a lot Pseudomizer,
with your help all the problem is fixed now :)

Thnx for modifying my templates
Its appreicated, we have users like u on vb.org

best regards,
Sandy...
You're welcome.

Cheers,


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