I can't see what the big deal is though. I mean we give members the opportunity to profit in some way from this site whereas .com doesn't, why not ask a little to give back to the community :)

Oops! Sorry. ;)

Biggest problem I see is once you make the hackers that are allowed to get business from the requests forum a "group" we're right back to that club mentality that so sucks here and is suposed to be being fixed, or at least I thought that was part of the fix.

YES!!! That is the exact point I have been trying to make in this whole thing. Thank you, noppid, for saying it better than I apparently could. ;)

how so, how would "that group" know who else was in the group, it just rewards active hackers, allowing the user who's requesting work to get the best hardest workers making hacks for them.

Another problem I came up with last night is design requests, a lot of designers can't code so that would be unfair too.

So who polices this elite group that will choose these elite programmers?

Money corrupts. It's all or nothing to be fair.

Yeah, let's have a secret group of elite programmers chosen by the elite mods. That will raise the confidence level of users. That's got to be the worst direction that could be taken in light of past experience. It's a club mentality, it won't work.

Service requetss come in quite a few differnt kinds, Design, instaltion, and hacks.

I dont think its bad to request a design or an instaltion or hacks for that matter, its up to the end user to decide, if they didnt do it here, they would do it on another site.

So in the end i think its fine.

Once again, YES! I agree with everything you've said so far. Money IS the root of all evil especially when it comes to hacks. You are right on! Give'em hell, my friend. I got your back. ;)

money isn't the root of evil that's us, but still as i say removing it is punishing the user, we need a safe environment to get stuff vB related done, whether it be exclusively or whether we just feel the person needs paying for it.