we talked about that already and told him to reverse it ....

Reverse what? He had it right the first time. != false means that if it's true, a.k.a. the user IS a googlebot, show it a no permissions screen. He had it right the first time. :p

my bad lol ^^ ive been abit off all day

So have I... wow, did I repeat a sentance?

Whats the bottom line here to do this then. If its figured out will someone post it? Or is it what he posted the first time?

Also, if I switch the forums off and the guests cant see and neither can the crawlers, the crawlers will still be able to get the archive right? Thats what I am most concerned with.

The archive gets switched off along with the forums.

The whole point of what I have been trying to do here is give the spiders free roam of the site. They can spider the normal forums (for those who use adsense), as well as the archives, but a normal person would not be able to do this. They would have to register in order to view anything else than the thread title.

Did you or anyone ever figure this one out?

Well, it seemed to work, but then I started noticing some of the spiders were allowed and some were not. I haven't figured that one out yet, but in the process of the testing I managed to get my Google PR cut in half. I'm waiting for that to build back up, plus I am going to try this on a site that doesn't really matter about the PR. So if I do figure out anymore, then I will post an update.

whats the point of blocking spiders but not guests? they can use Google or whatever other search engin to view your pages