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FleaBag 08-17-2003 01:00 AM

I agree with you entirely. I've seen cases such as this over time, and Corey deserves all the bad karma coming to him.

N!ck 08-17-2003 02:08 AM

I really don't get why people idolize the guy. It's just a little Photoshop work. Judging by some of the posts I've seen, he gets about $300-$500 an hour too...ridiculous IMHO.

Besides that, I think the car going backwards at 6SpeedOnline.com (I believe that's the site I'm thinking of, but it's down at the moment) is pretty funny. What kind of rocket scientist does a backwards motion blur? :D

SmEdD 08-17-2003 02:34 AM

If he is so over loaded why is he dishing out vBskins templates? I don't get him.

Like why wouldn't he just finish what he started instead of avoiding stuff. Someone eventually is just gonna say screw it and own him in court. Why would you want that for your self?

Dean C 08-17-2003 11:08 AM

Attrox the reason people pay that kind of money up front is for security. Whenever I have a new client they pay me a 25% deposit up front for the work. Then they sign a contract giving both them and us security in the deal. It basically says that if they bail out of the contract without paying in the middle of it after we wasted our time working for them then the deposit is non-refundable. However if we breach the terms of our original agreement or we have to bail out of the job for some reason which has no association with the client, then the deposit is refundable.

For a legitimate design-company a deposit is not just so they can rip off the client and run to Mexico with their money - it's so the client and the company has security in the deal.

- Dean

Chris M 08-17-2003 02:02 PM

That actually is a good thing to say Dean - All designers should use such a model;)

Satan

MischiefThought 08-18-2003 03:03 AM

I totally agree, i emailed him for an outline/price quote and got nothing back. How reliable was that, his skins are good, most definitely but his services seem to be shot down along with his reputation .

SZ|TalonKarrde 08-18-2003 12:15 PM

When these first started out I was pretty defensive of Corey, but the pure pass of them has made me rethink that. he's just got too much work to do it as well as he should.

Gavin B. 08-18-2003 08:47 PM

Didn't people have contracts with him? :) Any ammount of money like that I would ensure a contract is signed (it doesn't take very long to fax one back and forth). But I guess what's done it done :(

Royal 08-19-2003 07:52 PM

and what about the vb.org design he should made ? what happend with that ?

Dean C 08-20-2003 10:50 AM

Never happened ^^ :)


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