not ALL coding should be free but they could at least lower the price! and deffinatly on vbulletin its a php script for god sake not a peice of software. you can buy windows xp pro here for that much!! and i use xp too it's good for games but still i like linux, com'on who could resist tux over 4 crappy little boxes of color?? :) ...oh and the stability side of course :D - like i said though xp was a big step but the activation was going too far so no more money for mr bad microsoft guy from me :P and likewise vbulletin wont be getting my $160 - disturbed, valid point however i chose to answer a post on THIS forum, still you get a cookie *hands a cookie* (don't worry it's not one of those spyware ones :D ) - waddawadda need i ask where you "bought" vbulletin?? ;)

well put it this way
Vbulletin is software
i mean u pay for galleries
Skins,
styles
memberships
come on if u think about it 160 a one off payment one that u'll never have to make again

and to keep updated to whatever new version comes out only
30 pounds a years isn;t bad

i mean what other software lets u have upgrades like that
eg if u buy linux or Windows u have to pay for each one

err vb.com :P

you do realize i cant post (in most forums) or download hacks if imma not a valid customer :)

btw vB is really cheap compared to uBB

"Disturbed" is showing up as licensed. Don't jump to conclusions.

heres a simple way to solve it...

if you want a crap 1 month board with 6 members, go with phpBB...

or if you want a site with about 500 members and up for a long time (2 years) then go with vB, and if you dont have the money, get a job or become admin at a friend's site :-0

oh yeah, about UBB, i used to run one, but in the long term, they break down since CGI is nowhere as fast/server easy as PHP/MySql, and they are like 200 bucks :-0!!!

To elaborate on Spirtfireisgods message.

If you are looking for a long-term solution, vB is what you are looking for.

Well, I hope the $85 license only has to pay $30 a year after that to keep getting updates lol. When I do get vBulletin, it'll be the cheap license.

vB does look good. My site uses phpBB2 right now, good script, but vB seems to be the best.

I hated invision board though..

I believe if you buy the 85$ liscense, you do not pay 30$ every year, but pay 85$ every year, to renew the use of the liscense. 160$ Is to own the liscense, and 30$ here after to get access to the members area and support.

yeah get the $160 owned license.

as for getting someone to make your own forum software then yeah you could but chances are it be less feature packed than vb, youve got 1 person for support and it may look poop, plus the money you spent on that would have got you vb and youd be kicking yourself in the end :P

This is a "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin" question, l don't like phpBB but some people swear it's the best software.

Backing up a couple of people here, the coding in vBulletin is woeful compared to the layout of some of the other software.

Just my $0.01c worth.