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RichieBoy67 07-22-2016 01:02 AM
The brain can be very predictable in some ways but I do not think that has anything to do with it.

I am also not an educated scientist or an expert on the human brain but just because we cannot see an answer does not mean that it will not happen. Who knows? It could be done by connecting to the brain stem with some future technology.

200 years ago nobody ever thought we would have giant passenger jets and people floating in space. And as for your time frame.. that is just a wild guess.

Max Taxable 07-22-2016 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CarpCharacin (Post 2573596)
I get that. The singularity is not necessarily impossible, but my point is that it isn't going to happen soon because it is very hard to build an AI that will pick up that exponential growth. Brain uploading isn't going to happen for a long time.
You typed the bolded, then explained how you really do NOT get it!
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Brain uploading isn't going to happen for a long time.
There;s nothing about the Singularity that involves "brain uploading" that's Sci-Fi.
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isn't going to happen soon because it is very hard to build an AI that will pick up that exponential growth.
It's not something humans BUILD and it's already happening. You have NO clue of this topic and don't have any grasp at all of even the most basic fundamentals of it. Start by reading "The Singularity is Near" by Kurtzweil, if you can get past the first few chapters you might then start to absorb some of the concept..
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Kurzweil's idea is to use nanobots
NO it's not. You googled "Kurtzweil" and got a 2011 article not even really related to the Singularity. You don't know what the Singularity is. Read the book for a good start.

CarpCharacin 07-22-2016 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RichieBoy67 (Post 2573601)
The brain can be very predictable in some ways but I do not think that has anything to do with it.

I am also not an educated scientist or an expert on the human brain but just because we cannot see an answer does not mean that it will not happen. Who knows? It could be done by connecting to the brain stem with some future technology.

200 years ago nobody ever thought we would have giant passenger jets and people floating in space. And as for your time frame.. that is just a wild guess.
You can not achieve immortality through connecting the brain to a computer because neural pathways degrade over time. In the 1950s the navy was planning to build a thinking machine that was sentient and as smart as a human over the course of a year and that never went through.

Max Taxable 07-22-2016 01:19 AM
Here's the actual definition of The Singularity. You'll note there's nothing there about the human brain.

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The technological singularity is a hypothetical event in which an upgradable intelligent agent (such as a computer running software-based artificial general intelligence) enters a 'runaway reaction' of self-improvement cycles, with each new and more intelligent generation appearing more and more rapidly, causing an intelligence explosion and resulting in a powerful superintelligence that would, qualitatively, far surpass all human intelligence.
Made more simple, it is the point in which computers begin editing their own software and programming, and writing themselves new software and programming, WITHOUT HUMAN INPUT. This is where theoretically, the RATE of the increase in abilities, becomes exponential.

Right now, only the abilities are increasing exponentially, not the rate of the increase. This is a important distinction.

RichieBoy67 07-22-2016 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2573607)
Here's the actual definition of The Singularity. You'll note there's nothing there about the human brain.

Made more simple, it is the point in which computers begin editing their own software and programming, and writing themselves new software and programming, WITHOUT HUMAN INPUT. This is where theoretically, the RATE of the increase in abilities, becomes exponential.

Right now, only the abilities are increasing exponentially, not the rate of the increase. This is a important distinction.
Interesting stuff Max.

Not really in response to what you are saying but it seems like we are all controlled by technology already. :eek::eek:

CarpCharacin 07-22-2016 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2573607)
Here's the actual definition of The Singularity. You'll note there's nothing there about the human brain.

Made more simple, it is the point in which computers begin editing their own software and programming, and writing themselves new software and programming, WITHOUT HUMAN INPUT. This is where theoretically, the RATE of the increase in abilities, becomes exponential.

Right now, only the abilities are increasing exponentially, not the rate of the increase. This is a important distinction.
There is no artificial general intellegence and deep learning won't become that. I get what you are saying, I just don't think it will happen any time soon.

RichieBoy67 07-22-2016 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CarpCharacin (Post 2573609)
There is no artificial general intellegence and deep learning won't become that. I get what you are saying, I just don't think it will happen any time soon.
Maybe not in any of our life times but it will most likely happen. This is a form of evolution and we can already see it.

CarpCharacin 07-22-2016 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RichieBoy67 (Post 2573634)
Maybe not in any of our life times but it will most likely happen. This is a form of evolution and we can already see it.
It is possible, but i doubt it is most likely to happen. What i think is most likely is that humans will reach the limit of computing power and other technologies may advance but if i is possible to simulate the brain or create a simulated enhanced brain it isn't feasible. Sure it is possible to put a colony on pluto, but i doubt it will ever happen because it is unfeasable.

CarpCharacin 07-26-2016 03:37 PM
Most verticalscope sites are car sites. Just look at the list of how many there are http://www.verticalscope.com/automotive/site-list.html


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