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MarkFL 01-02-2016 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2561699)
Your refusal or more likely, inability to answer my questions tells me all I wanted to know. Your "atheism" is of the most infantile type, nothing more than a comfortable term to use while railing against the religious. You are actually more of a true believer than even the Pope. Because you fear the Deity, rail against the deity - you show you actually believe it exists!

And fail to realize that God and Gods, all deities in fact and all associated characters do in fact exist - in the human heart.

Just as any other fictional characters and stories Man has created be it Batman, Superman, or Spock. We create "God" in our own image, not the other way around - and if you realized that you would be no more threatened by "Jehovah" than you are of Jonah Hex!

You're transparent and laughable. But you're right about one thing - we are done.

Gonna sign up for Obamacare now, to get treated for the stitches in my side you just gave me.

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Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2561699)
Your refusal or more likely, inability to answer my questions tells me all I wanted to know. Your "atheism" is of the most infantile type, nothing more than a comfortable term to use while railing against the religious. You are actually more of a true believer than even the Pope. Because you fear the Deity, rail against the deity - you show you actually believe it exists!

What do you mean inability to answer? I will answer you all day long.

I simply refuse to believe that which presents no evidence...so sue me...LOL!!!

Give me some...any...evidence...can you? No...I thought so.....until then we are done...

Max Taxable 01-02-2016 04:27 AM

I'll further add that I don't think it's all that bright for a adviser to be attacking the religious beliefs of the members. I dunno, maybe that's just my own beliefs. But it really looks bad.

That aside, let's talk about perceptions and "evidence." Do you think paramecium and amoebas are aware of our existence? Well, you might say, of course not. They're incapable of discerning that.

Really? How do you know what they can discern? But if they're incapable of discerning us, does it stand to reason that to some other more advanced being, we could be paramecium or amoeba, to them and equally incapable of discerning their existence? Incapable of seeing any evidence?

Food for thought.

Max Taxable 01-02-2016 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkFL (Post 2561702)

What do you mean inability to answer?

It's either inability or refusal to answer..... My questions I posed earlier.

Max Taxable 01-02-2016 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkFL (Post 2561698)
Give me any kind of evidence for belief in the supernatural

I mean, this is stupid right? Do you believe in other intelligent life out there in space? There's zero evidence to support that belief. Yet we don't go around attacking people who do believe it.

Max Taxable 01-02-2016 04:39 AM

I'll Jet now and let you have the last word. That's all you really want anyway.

MarkFL 01-02-2016 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2561699)
Your refusal or more likely, inability to answer my questions tells me all I wanted to know. Your "atheism" is of the most infantile type, nothing more than a comfortable term to use while railing against the religious. You are actually more of a true believer than even the Pope. Because you fear the Deity, rail against the deity - you show you actually believe it exists!

And fail to realize that God and Gods, all deities in fact and all associated characters do in fact exist - in the human heart.

Just as any other fictional characters and stories Man has created be it Batman, Superman, or Spock. We create "God" in our own image, not the other way around - and if you realized that you would be no more threatened by "Jehovah" than you are of Jonah Hex!

You're transparent and laughable. But you're right about one thing - we are done.

Gonna sign up for Obamacare now, to get treated for the stitches in my side you just gave me.

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Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2561703)
I'll further add that I don't think it's all that bright for a adviser to be attacking the religious beliefs of the members. I dunno, maybe that's just my own beliefs. But it really looks bad.

That aside, let's talk about perceptions and "evidence." Do you think paramecium and amoebas are aware of our existence? Well, you might say, of course not. They're incapable of discerning that.

Really? How do you know what they can discern? But if they're incapable of discerning us, does it stand to reason that to some other more advanced being, we could be paramecium or amoeba, to them and equally incapable of discerning their existence? Incapable of seeing any evidence?

Food for thought.

Food for thought?

Let's back up for a moment...we are talking about belief without evidence. Is this reasonable. No...it is superstition. I stand firmly on my conviction of evidence. Give me one shred of evidence...can you? No....you cannot...and until you can you are silent. I fail to see what is so difficult about this...

ForceHSS 01-02-2016 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkFL (Post 2561708)
Food for thought?

Let's back up for a moment...we are talking about belief without evidence. Is this reasonable. No...it is superstition. I stand firmly on my conviction of evidence. Give me one shred of evidence...can you? No....you cannot...and until you can you are silent. I fail to see what is so difficult about this...present good evidence or STFU...

Telling a member to stfu and all you said to me is not what an adviser should be doing.
All I wanted was to post a video that I thought interesting you did not have to reply to it and as adviser it looks bad as you are representing vb and then kept attacking my beliefs can you not see how wrong this is you don't see me attacking yours. I would like this post either deleted or locked before someone says something you can't take back.

Admin please lock or delete this post

MarkFL 01-02-2016 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2561709)
Telling a member to stfu and all you said to me is not what an adviser should be doing.
All I wanted was to post a video that I thought interesting you did not have to reply to it and as adviser it looks bad as you are representing vb and then kept attacking my beliefs can you not see how wrong this is you don't see me attacking yours. I would like this post either deleted or locked before someone says something you can't take back.

Admin please lock or delete this post

I apologize for my language...I just don't like proselytizing. :)

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Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2561695)
"Actual science" becomes religion..... See how that works? Science is theoretical, not factual. Science starts with "we do not know" not, "We know and we can make models and fixed experiments to prove it."

Science is peer reviewed and falsifiable...religion is not.

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Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2561695)
Are infants Atheists?

Children must be indoctrinated to become religious.

setishock 01-02-2016 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2561672)
I posted the video not just because it was well made, but also to tell others we are in living in the last days and hope some will accept Jesus as their personal Savior. Making it as a joke will not help if you don't believe, then just don't reply this way you are doing one less sin.

This is not a religion forum. What did you expect as replies? You brought this on yourself.
Every one has their own perspectives on things and their own opinion.

This is the problem with organized religion. The Christians and the Muslims think if you don't believe like they do then you're an infidel. The Muslims still execute non believers while the Christians don't. But the Christians have their own way of pushing non believers buttons. As you have done in this thread.

"I'm not here to live up to your expectations, nor are you here to live up to mine.
You do your thing, and I'll do mine."

BirdOPrey5 01-03-2016 09:00 AM

The only correct religion is Klingon. Kahless will return one day, until then do your best to be among the honored dead else you wind up with this dude.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2016/01/23.jpg

With that, thread closed.

FYI, checking Google this site has a history of Religious threads that ended peacefully, but no one made personal insults, no one took standard internet chatter personally, and no one requested the thread they started be closed when they were done posting.


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