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thetechgenius 05-19-2015 01:26 PM

Honestly, its not cloudflares fault, the government should go after the Web Hosting provider, or the terrorist ISP that hosts the websites.

Digital Jedi 05-19-2015 07:17 PM

Keep your friends close. And your enemies on a separate feed.

Zachery 05-19-2015 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by thetechgenius (Post 2545856)
Honestly, its not cloudflares fault, the government should go after the Web Hosting provider, or the terrorist ISP that hosts the websites.

CloudFlare is effectively acting like a hosting provider, but playing dumb like they're not.

Wakey 06-16-2015 07:26 AM

If they start withdrawing their service from ISIS sites where does it stop though? Should Cloudflare really be expected to act as the moral compass of the Internet and whose morals are they supposed to be taking?

There are plenty of countries that people consider to be terrorist states including Isreal, Palistine, the U.S.A a& Russia and which every site operating in one of these are funding terrorism with their taxes so should Cloudflare stop providing their service to sites in those countries?

And there are plenty of sites that promote what myself and others consider hate speech and hate groups. The U.S Republicain party for example who's stance on homosexuality, gay rights and abortion are to me bigoted but anyone supporting and agreeing with those views are allowed to have those views. Should Cloudflare decided any such sites that openly support the Republicain party or just one or all their views in general shouldn't be allowed to use the service. The same with Christian groups.

No company should be expected to be our moral compass. As long as the site isn't activily doing something illegal then which the examples of ISIS sites I've seen on the news they seem careful not to cross that line then It shouldn't be Cloudflares duty

BirdOPrey5 06-16-2015 08:38 AM

They can stop at sites that don't promote the beheading of innocent people. That can be the line. If you only kidnap people for profit, and only rape people, and don't behead them, then they can host your sites. Beheading the innocent is the line if they need one.

Wakey 06-18-2015 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2547930)
They can stop at sites that don't promote the beheading of innocent people. That can be the line. If you only kidnap people for profit, and only rape people, and don't behead them, then they can host your sites. Beheading the innocent is the line if they need one.

Have you gone and checked out all these 'ISIS' sites protected by Cloudflare? How many of them are promoting the beheading of innocent people? As many of the media reports on Anonymous war on the ISIS sites makes mention of very few of the sites on their list of those being hosted/protected by western companies are actually even activily promoting the ISIS cause on the sites but rather are deemed guilty by association (There is a Twitter account that's uses the same name as the site which is more hardline, they may include a link so where on the site to a more hardline ISIS site and the likes). The sites doing things like preaching the most radical elements or posting the beheading videos largely aren't the ones being hosted/protected by western companies.

XiTCLUB 06-18-2015 10:54 AM

I Don't see any problem using CloudFlare, it just boosted my forum's speed and performance. This conversation will remain in this forum only nothing gonna happen and stop wasting time here. if you don't like the than don't use theme :)

final kaoss 06-19-2015 11:30 PM

We know what cloudflare's services does but you seem to be completely missing the topic of this thread.

RichieBoy67 06-20-2015 06:22 AM

These things happen with freedom and just because they do not monitor or moderate sites does not mean they are promoting anything.

Plus I say let them host those sites so we can track. The usa has already killed many isis leaders and others due to tracking their movements through the internet. Let them keep putting up their websites.


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