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asabet 01-13-2015 11:57 PM

How is my site any faster now? I temporarily disabled ads to remove that variable, but my sites need ads, and when I put them back, my site speed will be the same as before.

Cherry picking one example shows that sometimes these things affect performance. As Google Page Speed Insights suggests. It's not like I randomly encountered the only time this will ever happen.

And no one is asking you specifically to make time for anything. You consider a non-issue, fair enough. For others who agree with me that it is an issue worth addressing, the thread can go on.

Max Taxable 01-14-2015 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by asabet (Post 2532371)
How is my site any faster now? I temporarily disabled ads to remove that variable, but my sites need ads, and when I put them back, my site speed will be the same as before.

You said you didn't need the ads, they weren't making you any money. And no, the site WILL be faster because now since you are caching static content.

You're worried about milliseconds, when the poorly served adverts add entire seconds. Yes I am trying not to laugh.

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And no one is asking you specifically to make time for anything. You consider a non-issue, fair enough.
Just like alot of folks here, I give my time freely, to help people out. Thanks for appreciating it.
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For others who agree with me that it is an issue worth addressing, the thread can go on.
And you can be Buddy Holly then, and his Crickets. :D

A difference which makes no difference, is no difference. - Klingon Proverb.

asabet 01-14-2015 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2532372)
You said you didn't need the ads, they weren't making you any money.

Maybe I was unclear. I have 5 sites all with the same ads. This one has little activity and makes minimal money, so it makes a good test case where I can remove the ads temporarily without affecting the bottom line. But my goal is to speed up all my sites, especially the more active ones, so a solution that involves removing my revenue streams and eliminates my ability to pay for hosting is not a solution.

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Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2532372)
You said you didn't need the ads, they weren't making you any money. And no, the site WILL be faster because now since you are caching static content.

I was caching static content all along. My .htaccess never changed. Just my score was low before because the ads affected that parameter.

Max Taxable 01-14-2015 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by asabet (Post 2532374)
I was caching static content all along. My .htaccess never changed. Just my score was low before because the ads affected that parameter.

We saw where the forum had the caching, the CMS did not. AFTER you leveraged it via .htaccess.

You're now saying you never did?

Keep up the windmill tilting though, you'll eventually knock one down.:D

Max Taxable 01-14-2015 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by asabet (Post 2532283)
Google's Page Speed Insights tells me the following:




I suppose a similar result would come for any vBulletin 4 site. Has anyone figured out how to:

A) defer or async the javascript so that it is no longer render blocking without breaking functionality

B) Inline and/or combine the mentioned CSS so that it is faster

Would appreciate some pointers.

I do think it's funny though, and a little ironic - that google gives you ads which destroy your page speed performance, but the problem is somehow maybe a quarter second of js and css. Why not take this up with the advert providers, ask them why the adverts aren't optimized?

Fill the site full of third party junk for pennies, then wonder why the site is slow. THEN, worry about a frikkin quarter second!

Can't make this stuff up, Man.

asabet 01-14-2015 12:18 AM

I don't know what you are talking about. You thought you saw something about the CMS, but it must have been a red herring because the only thing I changed was removing Adsense, Amazon CPM, Skimlinks script, and Google Analytics script. All of which needs to go back.

My CMS is vBadvanced CMPS, in my site root. My forum is also in my site root. Both in the same place as my .htaccess. There is no way the .htaccess could leverage caching for one and not the other.


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Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2532376)
I do think it's funny though, and a little ironic - that google gives you ads which destroy your page speed performance, but the problem is somehow maybe a quarter second of js and css...Can't make this stuff up, Man.

What I think is funny is that I start a thread about how to shave a bit of time because that has been proven in many studies to have a real impact on the bottom line, and the thread gets completely derailed to the point where we're talking about asking Google to improve Adsense.

Max Taxable 01-14-2015 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by asabet (Post 2532377)
I don't know what you are talking about. You thought you saw something about the CMS, but it must have been a red herring because the only thing I changed was removing Adsense, Amazon CPM, Skimlinks script, and Google Analytics script. All of which needs to go back.

Which means you lied? Because you said you added the code we provided, to your .htaccess file.

There's no doubt of the testing. You WERE caching static content on the forum only, but not the CMS.

You LIE to people who are helping you?

Max Taxable 01-14-2015 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by asabet (Post 2532377)

What I think is funny is that I start a thread about how to shave a bit of time because that has been proven in many studies to have a real impact on the bottom line.

Studies where? By whom? Links? Sure you're not lying about that too?

Max Taxable 01-14-2015 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by asabet (Post 2532377)
There is no way the .htaccess could leverage caching for one and not the other.

I didn't say it was. If you will recall I said something is interfering because static content was NOT being cached in the CMS. And, asked to see the entire .htaccess file.

asabet 01-14-2015 12:39 AM

I'm done wasting my time with you, and since you've trashed this thread, I'm done here too.


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