Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 2498858)

Its a just a thought question.

A set of queries, and how long they each take, under load:

100q, 4 seconds
10q, 40 seconds

Which is better? The query time, is insanely low across the application in vBulletin 5, I know this because I run it on a really crappy atom server in house. I'm not saying there shouldn't be less queries. Less queries, when they're better queries, can be better. But less queries for less queries is not always better.

Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 2498853)

Query count isn't end all be all.

If I can spend .05 seconds doing 100 queries, you'd prefer 10 queries that take .5 seconds?

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 2498934)

Thats true up to a point, but if you start to get busy, those 100 queries are going to start to slow down and be a bigger issue because a server can only handle so many at a time.

There is a bug in 5.1.1 which means some pages are running hundreds (sometimes over 1000) on that specific page. That many will very quickly become a major issue if lots of people try to load that page.

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2498797)

But VBulletin developers aren't new graduate college students. The issue here is that we need more, currently I was told we have 4 developers only.



Also there is nothing wrong with new graduate web developers as long as they are graduating from prominent universities like Harvard, Yale and so on, they do have the skills and learn while in college. I guess what I can say is that there are 2 type of web developers, those who relay on everything they learn from college and those who always explore new ideas from outside resources and love to implement unique ideas, the latter is what we need.

Founders of Google, Twitters, Facebook, Disqus and all these unique ideas were new graduate students with visions and ideas that they like to implement and test.