Putting words into peple's mouths doesn't help your case.

I never said it was crap. I said it was a hack.

btw, if I knew what I was doing, my page would have been there when I tried to run a query on it.

Sadly, I usually end up ruining things when I try to fix. :p ;)

It's there now.:)

I like your site qwaz and I was not (if you were referring to me) putting words in your mouth or anyones..

those are just two words I have seen associated in posts about vbportal.. so those two stick in the back of my mind..

sorry if that offended ya.. just trying to make a point.. or atleast throwing my 2 cents in :)

Nah, no offense taken.

If I knew how to code and could make something better, then I might have even the slightest grounds to call someone else's work "crap".

But I don't, I rely on everyone else in this community to do all the work for me, as do the others that disparage someone's work.

Looks nice qwaz :) That a nuke template or you did that one? Did you intergrate that with vb?

And you are right, you never said it was crap, my bad bro. I hope you take no offense at it, just get a little tired of people blasting others work and I guess you caught the brunt end of that :(

I am learning slowly.. on how to do stuff like this.. and hopefully one day I can actually help wajones more than I do.. by maybe helping make the code more efficient.. or releasing all my addons and stuff that I am farting around with on a daily basis.. hehe

kind of glad I quit MetLife.. I get more work done.. hey I have even caugth myself doing college homework!.. always wondered what the teacher was talking about.. and what was past the cover of those books they gave me :)

and.. I agree a lot of people (including me a long time ago) had to rely solely on the vb greats.. like tubedogg, firefly as of lately... freddie, well the developers, moderators.. and anyone who has posted in the vb hacks with their releases (did not want to add a full list of names hehe)

I have bought 4 books on php and mysql.. and have learned a lot from them... which is great.. hopefully I can be of more use.. :)

Don't let Brad fool you guy's, he's already past my abilities. You need patience to be a programmer and I'm getting too old :D Everything said was true, I just hack, but just for the fun of it. But both Bane, Brad and many others have helped me more than I help them.

If vbPortal 3.0 does end up to be good enough to be released it will be because of people like them.

I wish I could take credit for that template, however it's not my work.

The graphics are mine! If that counts for anything. :)

Can't say I blame you for a growing frustration with people insulting something you created. It's only natural.

Well the graphics are usually my most difficult challenge, so yes it does count a great deal. One big thing that vbPortal is lacking is graphic styles. A lot of the users have done some great sites, they put the original to shame :D

thanks wajones for the vote of confidence :) and the kind words... I lack in a lot of things.. graphics is a major one also.. although I am talented freehand, when it comes to computer graphics.. cad.. cvt.. I cannot do it for crap :(

but that is going to be my next challenge after I figure more of this php stuff out.. hehe.. making some cool templates and graphics.. for my site.. and for vbportal and vb :)

but! don't hold your breathe.. hehe