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BirdOPrey5 03-17-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vijayninel (Post 2310308)
It is just mass hysteria and yes thousands of people can make false claims due to this. In medieval Europe whole villages used to claim that they actually saw the witch perfom that un-natural act. BTW its odd that they never had UFO claims those days. These seem to be a 20th century, American phenomenon.

I've already shown UFO sightings are not in any way limited to America. There are UFO reports all around the world. The video talks about a Japan Airlines Pilot on a 747 who reported they were being followed by a massive, fast moving object. Radar confirmed this object was there. The co-pilot confirmed this object was there. The radar track and the pilot confirm this object was moving at seemingly impossible speeds and moving changes in direction no known aircraft could duplicate. That pilot was grounded by the airline after making this claim even though there was radar evidence and he had an otherwise normal record.

There have been countless sightings in Mexico, South America, Europe, and Russia. Most sightings do not produce great evidence though so they were ignored for this particular documentary (aside from the Belgium and UK incidents) - but no one can say UFO sightings are only made in the USA.

And finally, perhaps the people of medieval times who had never seen an aircraft fly, never seen even an internal combustion engine, - people who did not have a common point of reference that we do today didn't call them "UFOs" but instead called them Angels, Demons, or other super-natural entities that there are no shortage of reports of throughout human history.

vijayninel 03-17-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2310335)
Japan Airlines Pilot on a 747 who reported they were being followed by a massive, fast moving object.

Yes that pilot was put on a desk job because he made a habit of reporting such bizaire things and there was concern that he was not in proper mental condition besides being a headache for the management.
Captain Terauchi of JAL flight 1628 was equally convinced that he had encount- ered an extraterrestrial craft in the skies above Alaska. Skeptics are not so sure, citing the fact that Terauchi had reported seeing UFOs on two previous occasions--and would report yet another sighting the following January, again over Alaska. (He would later explain his second Alaskan encounter as city lights reflecting off ice crystals in the clouds.) CSICOP's Philip Klass thinks that ice crystals in clouds played a significant role in the November encounter. He theorizes that moonlight reflecting off the clouds accounts for the initial sighting, and that when the crew later saw Mars and Jupiter, bright in the autumn sky, they assumed the planets were lights from the original UFO. The signal on the onboard radar, Klass believes, could have been reflected by the same ice crystals (although ice crystals, unlike rain droplets, are very poor reflectors of radar energy). The FAA analyzed the ground radar and con- cluded that they had been uncorrelated radar signals, a common phenomenon that occurs when a radar beam bounced back from an airplane to a ground station doesn't match up with a separate signal sent by the airplane's transponder. Surce :http://j_kidd.tripod.com/b/8.html
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Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2310335)
There have been countless sightings in Mexico, South America, Europe, and Russia. Most sightings do not produce great evidence though so they were ignored for this particular documentary (aside from the Belgium and UK incidents) - but no one can say UFO sightings are only made in the USA.

And finally, perhaps the people of medieval times who had never seen an aircraft fly, never seen even an internal combustion engine, - people who did not have a common point of reference that we do today didn't call them "UFOs" but instead called them Angels, Demons, or other super-natural entities that there are no shortage of reports of throughout human history.

All of those sightings have been hoaxes, natural phenomenon, man made crafts like experimental planes, spy planes, pyrotechnics or rocket exhaust which can be seen from great distances under proper atmospheric conditions. etc. There is no credible evidence that any of these were alien spacecraft.

While I agree that there have been sightings in other parts of the world, the overwhelming majority of these have been in the U.S. Also the U.S is responsible for exporting some of this mass hysteria/hoxes the world over through Hollywood, TV serials and science fiction literature.

Also there were no sightings of UFO's till the 20th century. Dragons and flying saucers have very distinct shapes.

setishock 03-17-2012 04:44 PM

Can you explain away what the Mayans saw and interacted with then?

AWS 03-17-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2310335)
I've already shown UFO sightings are not in any way limited to America. There are UFO reports all around the world. The video talks about a Japan Airlines Pilot on a 747 who reported they were being followed by a massive, fast moving object. Radar confirmed this object was there. The co-pilot confirmed this object was there. The radar track and the pilot confirm this object was moving at seemingly impossible speeds and moving changes in direction no known aircraft could duplicate. That pilot was grounded by the airline after making this claim even though there was radar evidence and he had an otherwise normal record.

There have been countless sightings in Mexico, South America, Europe, and Russia. Most sightings do not produce great evidence though so they were ignored for this particular documentary (aside from the Belgium and UK incidents) - but no one can say UFO sightings are only made in the USA.

And finally, perhaps the people of medieval times who had never seen an aircraft fly, never seen even an internal combustion engine, - people who did not have a common point of reference that we do today didn't call them "UFOs" but instead called them Angels, Demons, or other super-natural entities that there are no shortage of reports of throughout human history.

There is one reason and one reason alone to answer the question why they would not want to interact with us. We are a destructive, paranoid and warmongering species. Anything that we can't explain we act hostile too.

On an intellectual level we would be so far behind any alien species, if they exist at all, they wouldn't gain anything from interacting with us, while we more than likely would lock them up, probe them or just lock them away.

My personal feelings is that is it just arrogant to think there aren't other intelligent life forms in our galaxy or others. Ones that are perhaps millions of years more advanced than us. There are probably even some that are on our level or in some sort of earlier stage of advancement.

I have always thought that these sightings are not alien at all. Instead I tend to believe that any alien species would avoid us at all cost due to our nature. It's my opinion that these sightings are a future version of us traveling back in time as sort of a history lesson. One has to think, if this is true, that they more than likely marvel that we actually made the next step in evolution.


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