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HMBeaty 07-27-2011 02:34 AM

Well, to sum it all up....

O.J. killed his wife
Casey killed her daughter

http://funnypicblast.com/wp-content/...me-400x257.jpg

BirdOPrey5 07-27-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mdelcour (Post 2225388)
You do realize that she wasn't ONLY tried for capitol murder, right? She was also found Not Guilty of Manslaughter, Second Degree Murder, and Child Neglect.

You are mistaken.

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On October 14, 2008, Casey Anthony was indicted by a grand jury on charges of first degree murder, aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter of a child, and four counts of providing false information to police. She was later arrested.[39][40] Judge John Jordan ordered that she be held without bond.[41] On October 21, 2008, the charges of child neglect were dropped against Casey, according to the State Attorney's Office because ?the evidence proved that the child was deceased, the State sought an indictment on the legally appropriate charges."[42] On October 28th Anthony was arraigned and pled not guilty to all charges.[43]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Caylee_Anthony

Boofo 07-27-2011 10:41 AM

Does it matter? Even the jury said they don't believe she is innocent.

HMBeaty 07-27-2011 10:44 AM

Look at the date, that was 2008.... this is the more recent one.....
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Verdict and sentence

On July 5, 2011, the jury found Casey Anthony not guilty of first-degree murder, aggravated manslaughter, and aggravated child abuse. She was found guilty on four misdemeanor counts of providing false information to a law enforcement officer.
On July 7, 2011, sentencing arguments were heard. The defense asked for the sentencing to be based on one count of lying on the grounds that the offenses occurred as part of a single interview with police dealing with the same matter, the disappearance of her daughter, as one continuous lie. The defense also argued for concurrent sentences, that is for all four counts to become one count and the sentence to run together as one. The judge disagreed with defense arguments, finding that Anthony's statements consisted of "four distinct, separate lies" ordered the sentences be served consecutively, noting that "Law enforcement expended a great deal of time, energy and manpower looking for Caylee Marie Anthony. This search went on from July through December, over several months, trying to find Caylee Marie Anthony."[84]Judge Perry sentenced her as follows:
  • Count Four: The defendant told law enforcement that she was employed at Universal Studios during 2008, pursuant to the investigation of a missing persons report.
  • Count Five: The defendant told law enforcement that she had left Caylee at an apartment complex with a babysitter causing law enforcement to pursue the missing babysitter.
  • Count Six: The defendant told law enforcement that she informed two "employees" of Universal Studios, Jeff Hopkins and Juliet Lewis, at Universal, of the disappearance of Caylee.
  • Count Seven: The defendant told law enforcement that she had received a call and spoke to Caylee on July 15, 2008 causing law enforcement to expend further resources. [85]
Judge Perry sentenced Anthony to one year in jail and $1,000 in fines for each of the four counts of providing false information to a law enforcement officer, the maximum penalty prescribed by law. She received three years credit for time served plus additional credit for good behavior, resulting in her release on July 17, 2011.[86] Anthony filed a notice of appeal on July 15, 2011.[87] [88]
Eh, nevermind lol. Read the previous post wrong. (Just woke up :D)

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Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 2225497)
Even the jury said they don't believe she is innocent.

Because she isn't. :)

Ted S 07-27-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 2225497)
Does it matter? Even the jury said they don't believe she is innocent.

That's not how the presumption of innocence works. The facts must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that an act was done and that the act meets a certain level of punishment. This must be done only with the information provided -- media comments, speculation and even cold hard facts that are not admitted are not applicable.

You can know someone did it but not be able to qualify it as past that threshold in which case, as a juror, you can't convict the person... hence why she was found not guilty, the verdict is never "innocent". Furthermore when a decision is made to try a case with limited outcomes [like capital murder only] it places a far higher burden on the jury and gives them less options. For a jury to decide on anything but the facts and the standard is precisely how people end up in jail for things they did not do... listening to your heart/ gut rather than the evidence is not how this system has ever worked, nor should it be.

Most importantly, it's time to stop fixating on one person and one case. When we sensationalize these trials it puts them under such a microscope that the whole process becomes a mess. What makes her murder so special to warrant a thread versus the dozens of other similar cases?

Boofo 07-27-2011 02:36 PM

The thread started out with a simple joke and nothing more.

And what makes her murder so special is she was an innocent child caught in a web of lies and murder, no matter how you look at it. Anytime a child dies at the hands of a parent it needs to become a "mess" so it is not allowed to keep happening over and over again. If we as a society can't stop it, then what kind of future does any child hope to have?

HMBeaty 07-27-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 2225606)
The thread started out with a simple joke and nothing more.

I actually thought of a new one earlier as I was on my way home.

You know O.J. tried to come out with a book title something like "How I Would've Killed My Wife" but they wouldn't let him?

I wonder if Casey is going to try to come out with something similar, titled "How I Would've Killed My Daughter"

LOL

Reycer 07-27-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HMBeaty (Post 2225609)
I actually thought of a new one earlier as I was on my way home.

You know O.J. tried to come out with a book title something like "How I Would've Killed My Wife" but they wouldn't let him?

I wonder if Casey is going to try to come out with something similar, titled "How I Would've Killed My Daughter"

LOL

Sorry I seriously fail to see humor in that at all. That was a bit distasteful.

BirdOPrey5 07-27-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mdelcour (Post 2225631)
Sorry I seriously fail to see humor in that at all. That was a bit distasteful.

A lot of people made the same comment in the hours after Casey was found not guilty. Sometimes real life is stranger than fiction. But truth be told I don't think the book was OJ's idea- a publisher went to HIM with the concept of the book and then backed out after getting bad PR.

Boofo 07-27-2011 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mdelcour (Post 2225631)
Sorry I seriously fail to see humor in that at all. That was a bit distasteful.

I agree that is was a little off-color. But this did start out as a harmless joke thread.

I don't expect Casey to even come close to trying anything like that. Especially since Caylee was so young and her own daughter.


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