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aspen0 07-03-2009 01:59 AM

I wanted to let you know I found a small bug in the whitelist function, a new version will be uploaded soon.

mindhunter77 07-03-2009 02:03 AM

ok, so if we use this mod is it safe to remove all nofollows? I also use the nofollow attrib to stop the spidering of sorting links, things that could be considered dup content, should I still use that?

aspen0 07-03-2009 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindhunter77 (Post 1841774)
ok, so if we use this mod is it safe to remove all nofollows? I also use the nofollow attrib to stop the spidering of sorting links, things that could be considered dup content, should I still use that?

I would remove it regardless of installing this link or not.

Google's change means it is never a good idea to use nofollow on an internal link. and I mean never.

Instead to control duplicate content use rel canonical

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...canonical.html

vbulletin will hopefully include rel canonical for internal duplicate content management in a future update.

mindhunter77 07-03-2009 02:44 AM

ok thanks, =)

Do you think removing nofollow from external links is a good idea as well or will it make no difference..

smirkley 07-03-2009 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspen0 (Post 1841765)
The redirect pages WILL be indexed by search engines, they have to be.

And the redirect links cannot be nofollowed, or you still lose the PageRank. That is what Google changed. Prior to this change using nofollow removed the links from the equation that figured how much weight would be given to each link. They changed it so the links are included, they just don't get delivery of their weight.

Let me try to explain as simply as possible.

Normally you would send all your weight to the external links, or, if they were nofollowed, the weight would simply be removed from circulation. In either case, you do not get to keep it.

By using this plugin instead of sending your weight to the abyss or to external sites, you're sending your weight to the redirect page.

The redirect page then sends most of your weight back through your site through your menu/header/footer. The small fraction that is left is all that ends up being lost.

Ok, I do understand now. After reading the links you provided, plus your explanation, it makes much more sense and I apologise for being a bit thick headed in this, but I have been focusing alot lately on improving my seo as of late, and the more I learn, the more I dont understand lol.

But yes, the point is to lose as little as possible points via the redirect link dilution.



I currently use the old mod posted earlier in this thread, to add nofollow only to external links in posts, etc.
Should that mod be removed in leu of your modification?,... left in to enhance functionality?... or doesnt matter?

edit to add - ( The bolded text in my quote in this post apparently answers my last question.)

Thanks again for your help and I appreciate sincerely your input and advice.

aspen0 07-03-2009 06:54 AM

Yes, remove it, and this answers mindhunter's question as well.

I just uploaded a new file with a new version that fixes the small bug in the whitelist. Just reinstall (allow overwrite) the new product.xml file, no other updates are needed.

Alfa1 07-03-2009 10:03 AM

On second thought: i decided to install this hack right away. Many thanks.

Since SE are guests anyway, why not make this dependant upon member groups? There seems no use of activating this functionality for anyone other than guests.

EDIT: since a link to your site is on the redirect page, this defeats the purpose of link weight retention.

Now the page rank is no longer flowing to content relevant sites, but leaking to your site. The link to your site is defined in the template EXTERNAL_LINK. Please change this.

When clicking on an external link, a member is logged out. Could you please resolve this?

aspen0 07-03-2009 12:47 PM

You mean show different content to search engines than you show to other guests Alfa1 for the purposes of SEO? That'd technically be cloaking Alfa1 and is against guidelines and while it is a minor offense and probably wouldn't result in a penalty or ban, it is not really that worth it.

I could see offering that as a toggle in a future release, allowing you to set that in admin, leaving the choice up to you. It is actually a fairly good idea for a toggle.

I have no idea why someone would become logged out, the external link does nothing with cookies. Perhaps it is a browser issue? No one else has reported that, perhaps that user's cookies got corrupted or overwritten randomly, just as they clicked the link.

As for the powered-by link. It doesn't defeat the purpose, a small amount of link weight does pass through it, very small, a couple percent. The link is how I hope to spread the word of this plugin. Not every webmaster visits vb.org, but as sites install this plugin they'll see the powered by link, click on it, and see the explanation for what the plugin does and how it works. Its in the template, I can't force you to keep it, but I'd rather you keep it. This plugin is free, with the powered link you're still saving an enormous amoung of the link weight you would be losing without this plugin. It seems a small price to pay, but it is on the honor system.

mindhunter77 07-03-2009 01:07 PM

Anyone try this on 3.7 ?

aspen0 07-03-2009 02:02 PM

yes, 3.7.2, it worked


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