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Zachery 06-08-2009 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KTBleeding (Post 1825635)
Not really. They can render fine at the moment, but they still have a set of their "own" standards, rather than just following W3C completely. But, W3C moves so slowly at setting standards, I personally can't really blame them.. Even though it irritates me to no end.

IE8 is fine, so long as people doing work on the site don't use hacks in their stylesheet to work for IE6/7's lack of support. ( I'm talking about stuff like.. _height: ). If they set up their sites poorly, they could see a LOT of problems in IE8. Hence the "compatibility mode".. which is just going to cause more problems, I think.

Personally, I've seen the light of a better browser for years now, and Microsoft took WAY too long to release 8. (almost 8 years? since that poor excuse for a browser (IE7) shouldn't really count..) If it weren't for addons, I'd use Chrome over Firefox simply for it's great css3 support so far.
Firefox has its own suite of unoffical code that doens't follow standards, same as IE, thats a moot point.

KTBleeding 06-08-2009 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 1825645)
Firefox has its own suite of unoffical code that doens't follow standards, same as IE, thats a moot point.
True, they all do. This is a result of W3C moving so slowly to standardize things that are pretty important to designers. But you can't compare Microsofts lack of compatibility to anyone else. Microsoft is famous for completely butchering design elements. Arial?! Seriously? What's wrong with Helvetica?

In the end, IE has been holding back web developers for years and it continues to do so. It's absolutely retarded that we have to build a site and fix it for 7 or so different browsers. Imagine a world where all browsers are built on the same engine (I personally like Webkit), and they all follow the exact same standards. You do your job once, not 8 times.

We're almost there, sorta? The only browser that I ever need to alter specifically is IE. 6, 7, and although it's rare 8 too. Granted, there's still the different engines (Gecko / Webkit), but I would say 99% of the time they all work great.. other than IE.

Wayne Luke 06-08-2009 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KTBleeding (Post 1825652)
Arial?! Seriously? What's wrong with Helvetica?
Its copyrighted and Microsoft doesn't have the rights to distribute it. Really. This is a software licensing issue, not a design issue.

06-12-2009 04:27 AM
I use both of them and plus chrome, compare with IE, firefox is faster and more steady.

COBRAws 06-12-2009 05:29 AM
FF all the way. Unfortunately there are some stone aged sites that require you to login using IE only, lucky my that I still have windows on my desktop computer. I usually use my macbook to work since im away from home most of the time.

KTBleeding 06-12-2009 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by COBRAws (Post 1828145)
FF all the way. Unfortunately there are some stone aged sites that require you to login using IE only, lucky my that I still have windows on my desktop computer. I usually use my macbook to work since im away from home most of the time.
Those sites need to burn. It's like putting up a sign, "We're too dumb to figure out multiple browser support. Suffer the consequences." What about Linux and Mac users? There's a large enough percentage of them that it's worthwhile to develop correctly.

iogames 06-12-2009 01:34 PM
FF all the way!

agitated 06-12-2009 04:01 PM
I voted neither only because the option for both is not included.

I tend to use both IE8 and FF3 in equal measure and quite often alongside eachother / open.

Off topic NO IE for Europe in Win 7
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8096701.stm

Hasann 06-12-2009 11:16 PM
Internet Explorer is forever..

COBRAws 06-13-2009 01:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by agitated (Post 1828401)
I voted neither only because the option for both is not included.

I tend to use both IE8 and FF3 in equal measure and quite often alongside eachother / open.

Off topic NO IE for Europe in Win 7
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8096701.stm
Yeah I read this today on the newspaper, at the same time a question came to my mind... you install windows 7 and you want to go to the internet and check your emails, how do you do that? Yeah you can telnet or check them through a shell account, but thats not the point lol


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