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Shelley_c 11-20-2008 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princeton (Post 1669294)
Why even bother posting the thread..

People need to know who the scammers are. What's so hard to understand about that. A feedback system/rating system is a viable anwser. This alone gives the foundation in knowing who has had positive and negative ratings. You can write articles till your little heart is content but this will not tell you who are the scammers who prey on the vulnerable.

You telling us now you know more than ebay, amazon etc who have a rating/feedback system in place? That's no way to act towards a member who is suggesting in bettering this site and giving valid information in the improvement of the paid request area.

I assume talking to customers like this is welcomed so let me ask you what are you doing here? BTW, your signature breaks forum rules princeton that's more than 3 lines.

Gio~Logist 11-20-2008 04:30 PM

In response to Princeton
I'ma make a call to Ebay and let them know that they're feedback system is completely pointless.

Sense the sarcasm? Seriously... And don't flame me for this post. I'm just searching for an answer as to how you can rationalize something being better than nothing in any way shape or form?

Dean C 11-20-2008 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shelley_c (Post 1669458)
People need to know who the scammers are. What's so hard to understand about that. A feedback system/rating system is a viable anwser. This alone gives the foundation in knowing who has had positive and negative ratings. You can write articles till your little heart is content but this will not tell you who are the scammers who prey on the vulnerable.

You telling us now you know more than ebay, amazon etc who have a rating/feedback system in place? That's no way to act towards a member who is suggesting in bettering this site and giving valid information in the improvement of the paid request area.

I assume talking to customers like this is welcomed so let me ask you what are you doing here? BTW, your signature breaks forum rules princeton that's more than 3 lines.

How would you like it if I sent in your nickname and email as a scammer, and it was published for all to see? The system is open to abuse.

Shelley_c 11-20-2008 06:20 PM

Like everything, it's open to abuse. Take the default vbulletin rating system... this is prone to abuse and i'm guessing it has been from the moment it was enable here. How many mods,image sets & other submissions on this forum have had suspect ratings/installs etc applied to them?

Like I stated, lmost everything and all things that are ever implemented here are open to abuse, it doesn't mean you just don't try to find ways of lowering how a system can be abused. Obviously, precautions, planning and let's throw an ounce of willingness in creating a system that is both beneficial to both buyers/sellers not forgetting consequences if the system is somehow abuse.

Dean C 11-20-2008 06:32 PM

There is a big difference between having a low rating on your modification, and having your reputation tarnished by false claims that you are a scammer.

Shelley_c 11-20-2008 06:41 PM

Try reading the full post dean. Don't just read what you want to read and answer what you want to answer. Not everyone was born with a silver spoon in their mouth, nor have the scammed of the damned have money to lose. Maybe you have, and it's all come easy for you but this is the real world and people here are being scammed left right and center and work a little harder for their hard earned cash.

To state the obvious, it's easy for you to judge people but you have left many of my "common sense" suggestions unanswered. Implementing a system isn't going to be easy, I never said it would. where would the fun be in creating something that comes all too easy hey? solutions, find a solution and your half way there.

lasto 11-20-2008 07:10 PM

yep any system would be open to abuse but i would`nt expect a name to be added to a scammers list unless proof was provided - do u think we that daft.
You seem to be arguing the point about false claims but what about legit claims ?
Scammers get away with the crap they pull on this board for one simple reason : Because we cant even agree on a suitable sytem to combat them so they know theres nothing we can do.

Netunt 11-20-2008 08:01 PM

Sorry if someone has posted this already. I know this is probably not feasible but couldn't vBulletin.org act as a middle man?

Person wanting code give money to vBulletin.org

Coder makes mod and gives mod to vBulletin.org

vBulletin.org gives them out.

smacklan 11-20-2008 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princeton (Post 1669294)
This is not a "marketplace" nor will it ever become one.

This is the bottom line folks. Really, the Paid Services section needs to be closed Princeton ;)

Shelley_c 11-21-2008 12:30 AM

Totally agree with you on that one john the paid areas does need closing. It's not like the good ole days when you could leave your door open without "mr sticky fingers" going for the grab and run aka run & grab by mr tickle from the mr men book series. Paid areas should be left for the professionals to run, simply not amateurs that lack both the experience and the motivation in dealing with issues when they arise.

Whenever there has been an instance of someone being scammed this needs to be delt with esp by the people who run and maintain the forum. But when there is a vast amount of scamming happening and it's not being delt with by introducing and implementing the right system then something has to give.


It's alright people jumping in saying "you should have done this" or "you deserve it for not reading or doing your homework" but untill it happens to them they can't really pass judgement.

Anyway, just my 2 pence worth. :rolleyes:


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