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Milad 06-09-2008 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renep (Post 1544791)
Yes, it's a better idea to use an MTA with VERP support (that sends only bounces with the VERP address pattern to a bounce mailbox), instead of a catch-all address.

That would require this add-on to actually use VERP (mailbox+memberid@ourdomain), rather than a proprietary pattern similar to VERP :(

If you have a better pattern to suggest, go on.

Milad 06-09-2008 09:56 AM

mailbox+memberid@ourdomain won't be a good approach, because it can be abused by members. someone may send a fake email to kick someone else. so we can't use a simple pattern.

mailbox+messageid@domain.com is a good idea. I use bouncemessageid@domain.com not too different. I can alter it to mailboxmessageid@domain.com if you will get benefit from it.

Milad 06-09-2008 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devices (Post 1544818)
I think the messageid idea is good to verify the bounce is not a fake bounce causing havoc to your members.

Exactly. I'm not leaving this mod for kids to play with it. it got to be secure. for sure.

Devices 06-09-2008 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milad (Post 1544848)
For me, I use Gmail. it handles the spam very well. Spam messages go to the spam box, and the bounce messages will be returned to me.

This is very easy and nice.

Our own spam filters do a very good job at actually catching the spam. The main one is refusing connections for non existing accounts. Mail that does get through to real addresses will then be tagged if they are spam and passed to the MTA and moved by the MTA to the spam folder. By using a catch-all I increase the load on the MTA that the spam filters are currently releiving it of.

If you add a + sign in between the mailbox name and the message id then I think from what I have read about VERP you will be compatible. Then people can still use catch-all if they have no other choice. I am not an expert in VERP but this is how i understand it.

Devices 06-09-2008 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milad (Post 1544854)
mailbox+memberid@ourdomain won't be a good approach, because it can be abused by members. someone may send a fake email to kick someone else. so we can't use a simple pattern.

mailbox+messageid@domain.com is a good idea. I use bouncemessageid@domain.com not too different. I can alter it to mailboxmessageid@domain.com if you will get benefit from it.

Yes, Then an account named bounce will catch all email to bounce+(anything)@domain.com but will not catch anything that does not start bounce+. This will definatly help in my situation and as i understand it any VERP compatible MTA.

Milad 06-09-2008 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devices (Post 1544858)
If you add a + sign in between the mailbox name and the message id then I think from what I have read about VERP you will be compatible. Then people can still use catch-all if they have no other choice. I am not an expert in VERP but this is how i understand it.

Would you please give me a link to what you've read?

Regards

Milad 06-09-2008 10:45 AM

I think it's acceptable to use + or =

Devices 06-09-2008 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milad (Post 1544897)
Would you please give me a link to what you've read?

Just the info in wikipedia.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milad (Post 1544897)
I think it's acceptable to use + or =


I can use one of four characters + - _ or %.

On wikipedia the = sign is used as an example to replace the @ if you are adding the users full email address in the return address.

Jase2 06-09-2008 12:27 PM

Looks good, but as others have said, the copyright on FORUMHOME is completely unnecessary. So, for that reason, I'm not installing.

woostar 06-09-2008 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jase2 (Post 1544942)
Looks good, but as others have said, the copyright on FORUMHOME is completely unnecessary. So, for that reason, I'm not installing.

Same here.

Quote:

Support:
The product marked as not supported, but that doesn't mean you won't see me again here.
So please try to help each other.
If we help each other can we request homepage links too :p


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