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I think you're worrying too much over nothing. Give it some time and continue on and don't fret it. As soon as you get to the point that you aren't driving yourself crazy trying to figure out a new way every other day to get members, they will start showing up in droves. I have a small site and I love it. It gives me time to [s]screw up[/s] code my vbulletin and add things that I don't really need [s]and couldn't code if my life depended on it[/s]. Hang in there, it does get better. ;)

do you think theres any point in puttin a paypal donate button on the site?

No.

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Work on your content - members will come.

A paypal button never hurts a site. I have one. It never gets used but it is always there in case any ever one feels the need.

Well I like mmrpgs and there are many mmorpg lovers out there. How can I let people know its a forum for everything but it has a section for mmorpgs that is a very important part. If they see ultimate talkforums they won't think of mmorpgs but I want them to know once they come to the site that its a general forum but it... I danno how to explain. It has a section for mmorpgs that could be the main area for them... Like there's all mmorpg info tips and pigs also talk and clans for many mmorpgs

OK I just had a look at your site, the skin you've chosen has made it look so much better, well done. I actually opened your site and thought wow it looks great now.

as for members, dont sweat it. Like Boofo said members will show up, just give it time.

As someone mentioned earlier get rid of the dark gloomy style, to me it looks like a medival role playing site and seeing the style turned me off even before seeing what you had in the way of forums and what your site was about.

Start with a plain jane style first or even the default and get things working right and then slowly work on a different style or two.

I just worry that because its a general forum...nothing is ever gonna happen with it and its never gonna get anywhere

as for the style...i personally love the style but if the community doesnt il change it. I dont want a plain style i like styles that are like black dark and scary. Something that catches your attension can you suggest any?

I used to think that way until my Super Mod said to leave the style the way it is. It took some getting used to but I can concentrate on other things now and upgrades are a snap. If a forum has a life of some sort, even a small one, the skin is just eye candy to a few people. Most users really don't care as long as they can post, play in the arcade, and other things. I think we, as Admins, put way too much importance in the wrong areas.