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hcmagix 08-26-2006 04:12 PM

Now avaible for german vb users, Thanks antialiasis

Installed

adwade 08-26-2006 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoothie
Can this be used in conjunction with CAPTCHA?

YES, you sure can!

I just installed this MOD in Vb 3.6.0 and it's terrific. Works like a charm. If you want your users to get in on the fun, just post a message asking THEM for questions to use! ha, ha This is a BLAST! Many Thanxx antialiasis!:laugh:

Phaedrus 08-26-2006 09:53 PM

Watch out for users with Dyslexia... Spelling can be an issue.

Cole2026 08-27-2006 03:16 AM

You can eliminate the template edit (preventing you from editting a template, easier for upgrades.) by putting this code into the register_start hook location:
PHP Code:

$vbulletin->templatecache['register'] = str_replace('$imagereg''$nospamfield'$vbulletin->templatecache['register']); 


JulianWolf 08-27-2006 07:07 AM

Does anybody know if it works for 3.5 also?

Zachery 08-27-2006 07:12 AM

So they modify their code to cpature this snipet of text and then use a human to enter the form number like they have before. It will only work so well for so long. I do feel its not a bad idea but im sure it won't be too hard for them to figure their way around this one.

antialiasis 08-27-2006 09:30 PM

If they are using a human to enter the answer, it is a problem, yes - but there is not exactly much else that can be done about human CAPTCHA readers, either. Your best bet is, as I mentioned, if you have a forum concerning a special topic and you ask a question relating to the topic which genuine users will be able to answer easily but an average human CAPTCHA reader won't. (Additionally, there is the fact that a lot of spamming companies are based in for example Russia, and while anybody can read a couple of numbers on an image, they would have to know a fair bit of English - or whichever language the forum is in - to be able to both understand and answer such a question.)

Thanks for the bit about avoiding the template edit, Cole2026 - I was thinking it could be handy to do that for this hack, but was too lazy to look up how to do that since I've never done it before.

And yes, it can be used in conjunction with the regular CAPTCHA - then just be sure to add the template edit above instead of replacing.

Dyslexic users should be able to refresh and get another question until they have one they can definitely spell - administrators should accommodate dyslexic users by not making the answers to all the questions overly difficult. I can't do much about that myself. (In any case, users whose dyslexia is so problematic that they have difficulties with fairly simple words are most likely not very common on internet forums that are entirely about reading and typing messages.)

I'm fine-tuning the upgrade with multiple answers and case insensitivity - should be up in just a little while.

EDIT: Version 1.1.

ChrisTech 08-28-2006 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antialiasis
On another forum? Can't have been the same thing, because I just made this up and haven't posted it anywhere else, but I wouldn't be surprised if you found something similar sometime.

It came from vbulletin.com forums which I'd bet many people acted on to stop their forums from being spammed.

If you make this plugin/hack backwards compatible for the diff. versions of VB, many folks will LOVE you for it.

antialiasis 08-28-2006 01:07 AM

It's a similar concept, yes, but at its core a completely different hack - it's based on one plugin and a custom profile field, with only one question and one answer, and not a matter of controlling things through the admin CP at all.

I already think this should more or less work for 3.5 with a couple of minor edits to the product XML to remove the 3.6-only stuff, given that it's fairly simple and not really interacting much with any default vBulletin functions...

adwade 08-28-2006 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antialiasis
And yes, it can be used in conjunction with the regular CAPTCHA - then just be sure to add the template edit above instead of replacing.
EDIT: Version 1.1.

Question for those of us who've already installed your previous version: I kept the CAPTCHA code and placed your's in front of it.(figure one more layer of security is better) So how do I install this updated version?

By that, I mean will it remove the CAPTCHA code from my template? Or reverse the order I have them in? Do I need to UNinstall, revert my templates, then install this new version -or- can I just import the .xml and overwrite?

Sorry so many questions, but I'm quite new (i.e. 3wks) at all this.

Thanxx, AD


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