I would listen to members who make suggestions. Not ignore them. But of course, your correct my humour could be considered as being rude which is why I have given up giving valid suggestions. However, I've been making valid suggestions in most of this thread just not at the latter stages.

Actually, I was talking about the way you were making the suggestions earlier in the thread. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the time you spend helping others in the community - that's awesome. Your "suggestions" in this thread through - and some other comments - came across as quite rude. I could pull a few for you if you want, but you probably know what I mean.

Anyway, not trying to insult you or start a flamewar of any sort.. just trying to let you know how you are being percieved by at least some of the membership. It's probably not your intention to come across that way (I sometimes have the same problem) so better to be alerted than ignorant of it. ;)

Onward!

I must agree with Shelley and can understand her frustration.

I logged on here this morning to see that the site was down for 'restructuring". NICE, I thought. So I log back on this afternoon, to find the graphics areas scattered all over the site.

Realistically, why can't a new area be created for Styles and Graphics. It would contain ALL style releases, graphics releases, requests, discussions, articles, etc.

I see some people saying that the graphics aren't as important as the other areas. That's simply not true. You think members are going to register at an ugly site? Content might keep them there, but graphics is the first thing they see.

C'mon .org....... give graphics the recognition it deserves, and don't make those of us to whom they are important have to dig for them ;)

Actually I don't. Please do quote away.

Shelley,

I'm going to PM it, as I don't intend to make this into some "gripe at Shelley" thread - especially as it will continue to be off-topic. I should have just done that in the first place anyway, my apologies for that.

Some examples coming up. ;)

Jerry

While I await your pm my only gripe was the placement. Again, Try to understand it from a contributors point of view. I only want to contribute, and I'm happy enough to do this but I won't whilst the current layout is present. I can't tell whether there's a reply from the index page, and when I do click the first link to get into the area I still can't tell if anyone has made a request because it shows the last 5 newest submissions. I am constantly undertaking requests and making modifications which is time consuming in itself which also means members don't get their requests fast enough. Not only that, I was asked by brad to make a suggestion which I did, more than 2 suggestions which were not aswered back. My time is limted and anyone that is contributing into this area (graphic releases) will find it even harder now to keep up the pace of all the requests.

It's getting late, so if this is sounding rude I apoligise. But being asked to make sugggestions by a staff member only to have your suggestion ignored is rude in itself.

Anyway, I'm stepping away from this thread now in the hope that staff consider the feedback me and what other people have put to the table.

Shelley,

I know you do a lot of work for folks and, like I said, that's great. When I first came to .org I'd hoped for help with graphics as well - no such luck.

I certainly hope the things you are looking for come to pass, as I agree with your points concerning their location and usefulness.

BTW, PM sent. ;)

Krahl

I find the layout poor and highly unusable too. It took me about 10 minutes to find where the how to articles where, which speaks for itself.

just give it time. I don't think you were ignored, but just like you, they are busy as well. In the space of a few hours you made several posts. Maybe someone could post and say, "thanks for the comments, we're thinking stuff over", in reality not much time has passed that you should jump to the conclusion that you're being ignored imo.

Good point easy target... but I can also see how someone would feel ignored if they were asked to give advice, did so and then their advice was not implemented as well not getting a response about their advise.

Alongside that, when someone is volunteering and their job is made harder by seemingly illogical decisions (in the face of seemingly ignored *requested* advice), it can definitely be hard to swallow.

Anyway, I'm sure you realize that stuff.. I'm just voicing it to put it "out there."

Cheers