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Freezerator 02-06-2006 10:05 AM

I suggest they take on hosting in the Netherlands. I don't see how information about growing could be a criminal activity. Selling is another thing :)

MRGTB 02-06-2006 11:47 AM

But even if they hosted in a place like the Netherlands, how would the owners of the site fair if they lived in a country were it was outlawed.

I would have thought while the server was legal in that country, the owners would still be at risk because they might lived in another country were it's not legal.

FleaBag 02-06-2006 12:01 PM

For Jelsoft to remove the credit would be terrible I think. Nomatter how long ago his contributions were made part of stock code or how that code may have changed he has helped shape the product we have today.

In the UK seeds are legal. It is only illegal to cultivate. Although posession, is mostly ignored by law enforcement. For instance, I smoke publically [obviously I don't flaunt it] and have never been approached. If the police noticed though I guess I would only be arrested if I was near a school or in the city centre.

Teaching people how to grow is not ilegal! I don't understand why they seized the server.

smacklan 02-06-2006 01:30 PM

To quote the actor Stacey Keach from the Up in Smoke movies, "The surest way to make them bleed is to bust their *** and take their weed". :p

KTBleeding 02-06-2006 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filburt1
Good. About damn time the law punched them back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthElixirX
Good though. It was about time, as filburt said.

:sigh:

Why not show a little respect, huh?

I don't agree with the use of marijuana either, but I can also control myself from posting something like that.

Imagine you losing your hundreds, if not thousands of hours of work on your website (not to mention the money that goes into keeping it up) and having some snotty kid say, "Good. They deserved it."

BamaStangGuy 02-06-2006 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTBleeding
:sigh:

Why not show a little respect, huh?

I don't agree with the use of marijuana either, but I can also control myself from posting something like that.

Imagine you losing your hundreds, if not thousands of hours of work on your website (not to mention the money that goes into keeping it up) and having some snotty kid say, "Good. They deserved it."

Won't happen, I don't promote the use nor tell people how to grow/use illegal substances.

If what I have read is true they did deserve it as Overgrow was used to sell the substance across different countries.

filburt1 02-06-2006 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTBleeding
:sigh:

Why not show a little respect, huh?

I don't agree with the use of marijuana either, but I can also control myself from posting something like that.

Imagine you losing your hundreds, if not thousands of hours of work on your website (not to mention the money that goes into keeping it up) and having some snotty kid say, "Good. They deserved it."

Well they did. Name one thing that was legal about their site's content.

I for one am pissed that their name is in the vB credits. It may be the only file I edit in my vB installation just to remove it. I will not have any part of my forum associated with the site's content, particularly because it's explicitly forbidden to speak of it in my forum rules.

filburt1 02-06-2006 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTBleeding
:sigh:

Why not show a little respect, huh?

I don't agree with the use of marijuana either, but I can also control myself from posting something like that.

Imagine you losing your hundreds, if not thousands of hours of work on your website (not to mention the money that goes into keeping it up) and having some snotty kid say, "Good. They deserved it."

BTW, I'm a college-educated 21-year-old with years of professional (i.e., paid job in a company/government) development experience. I'm not a snotty kid, nor did I verbally (well, textually) attack you, and I'd appreciate some respect. The moderator status alone should convey respect, whether I'm 21 or 12.

Reeve of shinra 02-06-2006 03:35 PM

As far as I know, discussion was not illegal and whether you or not we specifically agree with the subject - free speech is something that we should be supporting.

If it has gone above and beyond free speech, thats another thing but all I've seen so far is speculation here about what was going on.

filburt1 02-06-2006 03:45 PM

I support free speech. I do not support speech of any kind on illegal topics. You could distort it to a view that discussing illegal activities is a form of conspiracy to commit the crimes in question.

Let's say I opened up a forum about homicide. That's a crime. Would your opinion change?


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