I thought this poll was made so we could keep arguing over paid hacks being advertised here (which is pointless)... not whether or not we like certain individuals on staff (which is also pointless).

The point is, everytime the customers ask for something, the mods take control and over power the suggestion and usually to their advantage.

It's about time this company and it's so called employees wake up and relealize, without us, they cease to exist. They should be catering to us, not us them.

Once this community of customers gets to gether on and unbiased site and discusses all of these equities without being hushed by the guilty parties or their aliances, nothing us cunstomers say will ever matter.

It's about time we customers get some respect and an avenue to the company that is not stacked with aliances to our site's competitors!

I'm sorry to hear you're not happy with how the site is managed, Noppid. But to be more clear, perhaps, my post wasn't made asking you to repeat or expand on your complaint.

It was really just a hint that we need to stay on topic in this thread... though, personally, I don't see any value to be gained by continuing any poll on the subject.

The point is, under this manamgement, we the customers can not have a topic. Status quo will prevail.

There are inside aliances and there is anomosity when a site that is not in the jelsoft club does better then one that is. The rules are changing all the time to benefit the insiders and not the REAL customers.

Not eactly a good business relationship if you ask me. The mods here can't fix this, only an intellegent imformed corporate agent could fix this. I doubt that these problems are ever brought up in the corporate meetings though. It's like asking a criminal to invetigate his own crime.

None of the Jelsoft customers are fairly represented in the corporate office and there is no avenue for customers to complain. The complaints go to those we would complain about it seems and dies.

Those all sound like pretty wild accusations to make here. At first, I thought you were unhappy with some of the staff, but I guess you're not too pleased with Jelsoft either. Kinda hard to tell exactly who you're taking aim at with this.

I still don't think this poll thread will get you the attention of anyone at the Jelsoft Corporate office. This really isn't the right place for the type of complaint you're making.. and it goes far beyond the scope of this poll.

To contact some "intelligent informed corporate agent," your best bet is probably to file your complaint officially through this route:

The .com site does have an avenue for customers to complain.

If anyone has problems with Staff here at vbulletin.org, their first stop would be to take it up with one of our Administrators. If this is not properly handled in your opinion, you could contact Wayne Machol, who is our Site coordinator. If this also not lead to a solution and you feel treated uncorrect, you can always directly PM or mail Kier.

The only complaint I have is that I don't have a complaint.

I've followed your suggestion and sent a polite note.

Thanks

Your welcome, so i guess we can get back on topic now.

And yet again a thread is taken completely off topics.

If you have complaints about staff, you need to forward them to me privately. This public bickering needs to stop.

And Steve Machol and I are two different people. ;)

We need to get along here or what is the point of even having the community?

Oops a serious typo, sorry about that Wayne.