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SCRIPT3R 11-28-2007 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GearTripper (Post 1385933)
Enable Post More Often Message = 42, but the message is appearing immediately... any suggestions?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GearTripper (Post 1391184)
I've confirmed this on three separate installations... bug perhaps?

Ted S, you seem to keep "missing" my question... any clue?

rwoscott 11-29-2007 12:53 AM

Installed, Thankyou.

Now I need to wait to see if it actually works!! Converting the unconverted, that is.

Ted S 11-29-2007 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GearTripper (Post 1391347)
Ted S, you seem to keep "missing" my question... any clue?

This issue has come up a few times in the past... from what I recall some forums don't increment the variable welcome headers looks at correctly. I'll dig into this tomorrow and get back to you with something to see if that's what's going on your site.

angel150586 11-29-2007 11:13 PM

Installed excellent mod thanks soooooo much!

raghavhere 11-30-2007 03:47 AM

Really Love the mod. Great work dude

cajunboy2208 11-30-2007 07:44 PM

Great hack, I have it installed
One question

How can I get it to display the message when they are viewing a thread?

They see it on the main page, and also in main forums.
But when viewing a thread... it does not show up.
And with all of my guests I get mainly viewing threads, I really need this there.

caliman 11-30-2007 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 1391176)
Yes but your forumindex already has a welcome header. Adding welcome headers to only one page is a waste of time and defeats the entire purpose (and benefit) of the system.

I am trying to deal with SEO issues here.

Ted S 11-30-2007 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caliman (Post 1392545)
I am trying to deal with SEO issues here.

Well you'll have to weigh your perceived understanding of SEO versus effectively communicating to your visitors. It's a tradeoff every site makes. If your end thought is that welcome headers should not be on every page then by all means, don't use it. You can easily customize the default welcome header that comes with vbulletin for your forumhome page.

Ted S 11-30-2007 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajunboy2208 (Post 1392535)
How can I get it to display the message when they are viewing a thread?

Do you have Limited Guest Viewing installed?

cajunboy2208 11-30-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 1392578)
Do you have Limited Guest Viewing installed?

Yes I do.

Ted S 11-30-2007 08:59 PM

There is an option to suppress welcome headers with limited guest viewing, toggle it off (or on if it's already off).

cajunboy2208 11-30-2007 09:05 PM

That did the trick, I thought it would of disabled the limited guest viewing... but it is still enabled.

Thank you! =)

caliman 11-30-2007 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 1392576)
Well you'll have to weigh your perceived understanding of SEO versus effectively communicating to your visitors. It's a tradeoff every site makes. If your end thought is that welcome headers should not be on every page then by all means, don't use it. You can easily customize the default welcome header that comes with vbulletin for your forumhome page.

Perceived? Nice shot.
This mod works great, but it does dilute.

Ted S 11-30-2007 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caliman (Post 1392605)
Perceived? Nice shot.
This mod works great, but it does dilute.

Obviously any site-wide copy is going to have an impact how what the spiders see, how it impacts your rankings is a matter of debate but that's not really the point you're getting at.

If the mod works great for you, disabling it or using it on only one page would seem unwise. Why not try the vbSEO recommendation and turn your guest message (which is all the spiders see) into an image?

Ted S 11-30-2007 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajunboy2208 (Post 1392594)
That did the trick, I thought it would of disabled the limited guest viewing... but it is still enabled.

Nope. The reason the option exists is that you now have the possibility of showing two similar messages if someone triggers the limited guest viewing system. My suggestion would be to create a short message for limited guest viewing as the welcome header will already give them an intro to the site.

kiFF 12-07-2007 08:37 PM

Is there a header for users that have only posted once? I'd like there to be a searate message for users with only 1 post. :)

Ted S 12-07-2007 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiFF (Post 1397022)
Is there a header for users that have only posted once? I'd like there to be a searate message for users with only 1 post. :)

Welcome Headers is only meant to be an example of what you can do... you can and should be customizing it with messages and new conditionals that make sense for your forum.

kiFF 12-07-2007 11:25 PM

I don't know how to do that. Do I have to go into the templates and type my own code? If so, can you just tell me what I'd need for users who only have 1 post please?

Ted S 12-08-2007 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiFF (Post 1397112)
I don't know how to do that. Do I have to go into the templates and type my own code? If so, can you just tell me what I'd need for users who only have 1 post please?

Yes you would need to go into the template and edit the very basic html & vb conditional code. There's already a message that checks for post count so you can more or less copy that and change the post number and resulting message.

kiFF 12-09-2007 12:42 PM

Thank you. It took me a while to figure out, because I was trying:
Code:

<if condition="$bbuserinfo[posts]=1
When it should have been
Code:

<if condition="$bbuserinfo[posts]<2
That's wierd though, because you would think that the message would show up if you had no posts, because 0 is less than 2, but I guess the other header overrides it?

Ted S 12-09-2007 04:46 PM

In php and vbulletin conditions you need to use == to check if one value equals another. When you use just =, you're stating that this variable is the value.

Ted S 12-18-2007 08:06 PM

Attention vB 3.7 beta 2 users: Please check back this weekend for an important update to the welcome headers system!

andreamarucci 12-24-2007 12:47 PM

Fantastic hack but don't you think that adding an option to let guest view just the thread titles until they register should make this mod perfect?

I'm asking this since my forum will become a pay forum. Instead of hiding the interesting forum to the guests, I would like to show them just the thread titles so they can realize that, if they register, they will access more interesting contents.

Weapon-x 12-24-2007 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 1403925)
Attention vB 3.7 beta 2 users: Please check back this weekend for an important update to the welcome headers system!

Thank you. Can't wait to see a 3.7 release!

Jase2 12-25-2007 03:33 PM

I can't get this work - I did everything right - edited the template ect. then imported the xml product. I can edit the welcome message ect. in my ACP - but when I view as a guest I cannot see the welcome message... any ideas why?

Regards Jason :)

leenster 12-26-2007 12:13 AM

installed on 3.6.8 without problems. thank you for this mod.

Ted S 12-26-2007 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jase2 (Post 1408925)
I can't get this work - I did everything right - edited the template ect. then imported the xml product. I can edit the welcome message ect. in my ACP - but when I view as a guest I cannot see the welcome message... any ideas why?

Regards Jason :)

Open the template welcome_headers and add ABCD (or any other words) to the top. Refresh your forum as a guest... if it's not there, then you haven't enabled the plugin, plugin system or added the $welcomeheaders variable to your templates.

Ted S 12-26-2007 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreamarucci (Post 1408365)
Fantastic hack but don't you think that adding an option to let guest view just the thread titles until they register should make this mod perfect?

No, I don't. Welcome Headers is intended to inform guests, unconfirmed users and other user groups about their status and your site and not to impact their browsing experience. However, the system is intended to be a starting point... how you customize it is up to you.

LilSniper 01-02-2008 01:39 AM

Does this work for 3.6.7?

Thanks!

Ted S 01-02-2008 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilSniper (Post 1413591)
Does this work for 3.6.7?

Yes, it will work with an older version of the 3.6 series release although you should consider upgrading.

LilSniper 01-02-2008 03:46 AM

Thanks for the fast reply.

Installed without a problem!

REVHEAD 01-05-2008 06:34 PM

I got mine installed very nice.

How do I enlarge the tect if at all possible ,and change the colour of the text ,because the skin im runiing is clashing with the text ,thanks.

REVHEAD 01-05-2008 10:18 PM

I read a couple of posts regarding welcome images ,I have office 2007 and not frontpage,how could I put links in? allso my Header is above the login box,were would I move the ttext to get it below this area away from my adsese .

I would still allso like to know how to add colour and ,change font sizes and add clickable links to the text , I am sorry if I am outa the look ,I am a big noob with the internet haha.

Thanks

Ted S 01-06-2008 03:03 AM

Office is not an html editor and should not be used to modify welcome headers.

You can either learn basic html or find an editor and modify the individual phrases for each message. To edit them, go to your vBulletin Options, select Welcome Headers System and look for the link next to each message to edit it.

REVHEAD 01-07-2008 06:34 AM

hi ted
I can edit the header ,and thats all good ,but how can I change the size of the text and add links ,I tried vb bb coes but no good, I want to allso edit the colour of my text to reflect the forum .

I know nothing about php or hosting a site, i am learning on the run haha

Ted S 01-07-2008 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REVHEAD (Post 1416988)
hi ted
I can edit the header ,and thats all good ,but how can I change the size of the text and add links ,I tried vb bb coes but no good, I want to allso edit the colour of my text to reflect the forum .

I know nothing about php or hosting a site, i am learning on the run haha

Phrases use HTML, not bbcode. See www.w3schools.org for an HTML primer.

REVHEAD 01-08-2008 05:06 AM

Cheers TED

zerokarma 01-08-2008 02:39 PM

Installed easy and works great.

I moved the location of the message to under the Nav bar though, I also made a few other minor template modifications to blend it in a little better.

I guess I'll have to wait and see if it increases registration/posting.

sp0okz 01-08-2008 03:45 PM

works with 3.7 also as i just added it :)

Ted S 01-08-2008 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp0okz (Post 1417809)
works with 3.7 also as i just added it :)

It will work but may not be the best version to use for 3.7 (depending on your preferences). Please see the 3.7 version of this add-on.


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