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BlueNinjaGo 04-14-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exportforce (Post 1791187)
If you directly deny a registration they'll figure more fast, that they should do this. If you let them register and instantly ban them, they don't fiddle around much. Don't know why but it works better that way :)

Why don't you just set it up so the prevention usergroup is "banned" usergroup. That way, any alt (account B) is automatically banned.

This would NOT ban the original account.(Account A) But you would get a PM and/or a thread made, allowing you to manually ban the original account.

If you ban the original account, and the user tries to make another account (Account C), he/she would automatically be banned.

You can do all of that with the built in features.

As for users clearing cookies, using different browsers, or IP addresses, there's nothing Kiros or anyone can do about that. (AFAIK)

exportforce 04-14-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueNinjaGo (Post 1791265)
Why don't you just set it up so the prevention usergroup is "banned" usergroup. That way, any alt (account B) is automatically banned.

This would NOT ban the original account.(Account A) But you would get a PM and/or a thread made, allowing you to manually ban the original account.

If you ban the original account, and the user tries to make another account (Account C), he/she would automatically be banned.

You can do all of that with the built in features.

As for users clearing cookies, using different browsers, or IP addresses, there's nothing Kiros or anyone can do about that. (AFAIK)

That is what I already do, but I need to have the first account instantly banned too.

Alfa1 04-14-2009 09:09 PM

I added these suggestions to my post, but I am not sure if you noticed them when you posted your reply, since you posted a long post only 27 minutes later.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfa1 (Post 1791133)
Some suggestions:

- After each account:
  • Add a link to PM the member. (optimal would be a predefined PM text to be sent)
  • Add a link to search the database for all IP's that belong to the account.
  • Add a link to add the account to the miserable users group
  • Add a link to add the account to 'Tachy goes to Coventry'
  • Add a link to ban the member.
- Add a function to ignore the accounts or IPs in the future.
- If an IP is reported, then add the whois.


bigcurt 04-15-2009 10:18 AM

Let me ask you a question. If all I want is for it to report to me cases of IP links/cookie links to a forum..and disable everything else. Should I just say with AE detector or is there something better/more secure about this mod? Thanks a ton for working on it bud.

Curt

Markos 04-15-2009 10:59 AM

is there anyway to stop it to detect Multiple ips cos i keep getting it detecting multiple accounts and they don't even know each other :S

BlueNinjaGo 04-15-2009 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markos (Post 1791631)
is there anyway to stop it to detect Multiple ips cos i keep getting it detecting multiple accounts and they don't even know each other :S

You can disable the IP address part of it and only use the cookie part. If it's just a few users, you can add them to the ignore list...

bond010007 04-15-2009 03:20 PM

great work mate i try it now and installed

Kiros72 04-16-2009 01:06 AM

Quite a few new posts. Let's see...

Quote:

Originally Posted by exportforce (Post 1791187)
If it is a matter of money, please tell me a price to get this a bit higher into your priority list.
Maybe as a hardcoded option in a file, so if you really want to activate it, it is not easily accessable through the options :)



For me not. As Stated. Account X and Y are already banned for being shared accounts. Yesterday someone logged into both accounts with the same IP and browser and the System did NOT inform me about that.
About the detectiontype... in our test the text was missing, now on a real one it showed the detection very well :)


If you directly deny a registration they'll figure more fast, that they should do this. If you let them register and instantly ban them, they don't fiddle around much. Don't know why but it works better that way :)

Well, I hate to be "that guy," but yes, money always helps, and I would work on a feature with much higher priority if I'm getting paid to do so.

The reason why it wouldn't have reported the a multiple account is that it only reports NEW detections. That means that if someone creates a duplicate account, and it catches it, you'll get a report about it, but if they keep login in to those two accounts, you won't get another report since it already notified you about the multiple accounts. You know?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfa1 (Post 1791317)
I added these suggestions to my post, but I am not sure if you noticed them when you posted your reply, since you posted a long post only 27 minutes later.

No, I didn't notice your edit. Those are some good suggestions, mate. I'll see what I can do with future versions (it might not all come at once).

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigcurt (Post 1791613)
Let me ask you a question. If all I want is for it to report to me cases of IP links/cookie links to a forum..and disable everything else. Should I just say with AE detector or is there something better/more secure about this mod? Thanks a ton for working on it bud.

Curt

Well, the AE Detector does not support IP address checks and it does not have checks for registration. It also uses slower code. My modification is, in my honest opinion, a big step up. MPDev did a fine job, but he/she hasn't worked on that modification in a long time. Lastly, the AE Detector is not as feature-rich and well-documented as my modification. If all you want is reports about cookie/IP linked accounts, then you can use my modification and enable Silent Mode.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markos (Post 1791631)
is there anyway to stop it to detect Multiple ips cos i keep getting it detecting multiple accounts and they don't even know each other :S

Yes, you can disable the IP address checks within the settings (found in the AdminCP).


Also, thank you, Muffin Man (BlueNinjaGo) for the support to others ;)

Kiros72 04-16-2009 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bond010007 (Post 1791796)
great work mate i try it now and installed

Awesome. Let me know if you have any questions/suggestions.

BlueNinjaGo 04-16-2009 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiros72 (Post 1792110)
Also, thank you, Muffin Man (BlueNinjaGo) for the support to others ;)

No problem... 8 hours at work goes by so slow...

Hope I didn't step on your toes... Just tried to give answers to the questions that I (think I) can answer.


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