Originally Posted by hotwheels

Shortly thereafter, i recieved a couple pm's telling me i could not release another's code without his permission. With out wanting to get into the he said she said, i backed off and removed my zip from the site.

Originally Posted by Erwin

The admins and staff have listened to the concerns in this thread and we are actively finding solutions right now. It's sufficient to say that there will be major changes implemented very soon - I know people are tired of hearing merely words with no actions to back them up - we basically need to look at different options - do we do this in an evolutionary way (slow and steady), or in a revolutionary way (radical changes)? It may be that we need radical changes. We shall see. Things are being discussed. So be assured that we are listening.

Originally Posted by amykhar

I think an analogy more apt than the grocery store one would be that of a pot-luck dinner at a church that has gone very, very wrong. In a pot-luck dinner, every family brings a dish of their favorite food to share with the group. People eat a bit of this and that and talk and maybe swap recipes. There is no menu. There are no waiters or short-order cooks.

Now, imagine you take your dinner to the pot-luck dinner, and out of the 100 people who come, 4 bring food. Most of the other 96 people come and very quietly eat some of the food and leave. A few smile and say thank you. And, because it's a church and you have some food there, you really don't mind.

A few people who don't cook try to help out. They wash dishes, and pick up the trash. They help the small kids and older people who can't fill their own plates. They try to add something to the party.

But, 2 or 3 of the people who don't bring food start asking for stuff that isn't there. And, they get angry when you won't dish out their plates and serve them at their table. And, they yell at the people who did cook and tell them that the food is no good and it would be much better if you served steak instead of baked beans.

Those 2 or 3 people are far from the majority, but they certainly aren't much incentive for the 4 people who were willing to share their food to do so again.

Originally Posted by Erwin

The admins and staff have listened to the concerns in this thread and we are actively finding solutions right now. It's sufficient to say that there will be major changes implemented very soon - I know people are tired of hearing merely words with no actions to back them up - we basically need to look at different options - do we do this in an evolutionary way (slow and steady), or in a revolutionary way (radical changes)? It may be that we need radical changes. We shall see. Things are being discussed. So be assured that we are listening.

Originally Posted by Erwin

The admins and staff have listened to the concerns in this thread and we are actively finding solutions right now. It's sufficient to say that there will be major changes implemented very soon - I know people are tired of hearing merely words with no actions to back them up - we basically need to look at different options - do we do this in an evolutionary way (slow and steady), or in a revolutionary way (radical changes)? It may be that we need radical changes. We shall see. Things are being discussed. So be assured that we are listening.

Originally Posted by Revan

First of all I would like to say thanks for taking action. It's most appreciated.
But I do have to state one thing: It would be nice if we could hear a little more than "changes will be implemented". All we've heard is "the hack db is coming" but thats about it. Any attempts to re-kindle it gets the thread locked (seperate thread that is).
What I would like is to hear a little more details. Specifically, a what and a rough when.

I applaud changes being made (if they are for the better :p) :)

Originally Posted by christianb

To be serious on the matter, aside from hot camels, I am compelled to agree with Amy and with good reason too. She makes a very good analogy. I will provide my hacks for free and if people don't like it, I will assume there's something better they can purchase elsewhere - which is fine by me, I'm happy I can help someone out that can't afford to pay, such as myself.