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charlesr 06-02-2011 12:54 PM

I'm on the latest vb4.

I've been having horrendous server overload issues and after a while I got to the point where I turned off all plugins and any standard vbulletin features that are vaguely intensive, e.g. search. I also disabled new signups completely.

After a couple of days of running fine, I turned search back on. Then after 5 days of it running fine I turned on SpamOmatic and enabled signups. After a few hours the server went nuts (load = 100+) and fell over. I turned the product off again and have been moderating signups manually. Everything has been fine for a few days now, with the server barely breaking a sweat.

Note: I checked that cURL and allow_url_fopen are enable on the server.

Hopefully just coincidence! But I was wondering if anyone else has had load issues with this product enabled? If so, any hints?

After a few more days, I'll be turning it on again to try and "confirm" if it was coincidence or not.

caracena 06-02-2011 01:08 PM

You obviously have something broken in your forum either in this modification or in vB itself. I've been running this mod for some 3 weeks now and load stays at an average of 0.3 in normal hours and 1.1 in peak hours usually becouse there's one or two visitors that get hung up with a lot of redirections becouse some weird post they'r trying to see and my very ugly SEO rewrites (yeah, my fault).

I had the same problem as you before I upgraded to vB4. Loading average for my site was in the 18 seconds and now is in the 4 seconds and it wasn't fault of modifications or plugins... just some bad configuration settings.

Re-check every single setting in options and delete/re-install this mod before activating it again.

charlesr 06-02-2011 05:46 PM

Thanks.

I just tried uninstalling the product which went smoothly but in the instructions it says:

Quote:

5.1. After uninstall, please, remove
/includes/xml/bitfield_glowhostspamomatic.xml file from server
I could not find this file - is this part of the readme file up to date or is that file only relevant for older versions of ghsom?

caracena 06-02-2011 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlesr (Post 2202769)
Thanks.

I just tried uninstalling the product which went smoothly but in the instructions it says:


I could not find this file - is this part of the readme file up to date or is that file only relevant for older versions of ghsom?

Not relevant to this version.

charlesr 06-02-2011 09:27 PM

Coolo. Thanks muchly.

Adrian Schneider 06-02-2011 09:33 PM

Cool, thanks for sharing. Going to give it a try.

jackspratt 06-03-2011 03:53 PM

I receive the following error when installing.
I have ver 4.1.3 CMS

query_write('CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS `'.TABLE_PREFIX.'glowhostspamomatic_log`(

caracena 06-03-2011 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackspratt (Post 2203111)
I receive the following error when installing.
I have ver 4.1.3 CMS

query_write('CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS `'.TABLE_PREFIX.'glowhostspamomatic_log`(

Check this post

CRDeveloper 06-04-2011 01:50 AM

Hey I remember that in the older version we had option in the edit user setting at the bottom, so we can ban with this mod the user sending them to the blacklist.

Now in this version I don't see any of those options in the edit user. The problem right now is that in one of my forums I got users like this registering
Code:

Adwlzfbsqfhre  188.123.248.62
There are like 32 users like that using that IP and all of them pass the security.

I will ban the IP right now, but how to ban the user using this mod? They haven't done any post so I can use moderation tools.

dustoff99 06-04-2011 02:12 AM

You have to wait until his next update (2.5 I believe) to get the sleepers.

CRDeveloper 06-04-2011 05:01 AM

So I can only ban them right now?

LisaArnold 06-04-2011 10:35 AM

So I'm guessing by the no response to my last post on page 69, that there isn't an answer, or no one knows what the answer is. :confused:

I hope there is an answer because it's becoming a real problem having to check everyone who manages to get past SOM and then having to manually ban then delete 99% of them as reported spammers with multiple reports (some up to recent 200 reports). If I can't get this fixed, I might as well uninstall it, because I'm doing all the work still- like I used to do. :(

Please, if someone knows why it's not working, can you fill me in so I can get it fixed?!

BTW, I'm using v4.1.2 (haven't updated to v4.1.3 yet) if that helps.

dustoff99 06-04-2011 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRDeveloper (Post 2203305)
So I can only ban them right now?

I ban the people that have attempted to register on my site if they use the same ip over and over.

GlowHost.com 06-05-2011 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pionex (Post 2200113)
let me explain this clearly for you,
when you download this file there will be ffolders named admincp and includes... and so on ( i have not downloaded this yet, so I dont know what is included )

inside of those folders will be files, you need to take the files from the folders and upload them into the corresponding folders on your server.

example:
admincp folder included with this download has files within it, take those files out of that admincp folder and put them into your admincp folder on your sever. repeat this process for each corresponding folder, items not in a folder go directly into public_html

that explain it better?

Thank you for your explanation. If anyone has the same question, Pionex nailed it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by liltiger (Post 2200080)
no... I originally tried to upload to my forum... and it wanted to replace admin cp and include...

then another post here said to put them in admin cp

If I could delete that post, I would. Its not a very good explanation and misleading that the files are supposed to go in admincp....Please ignore that post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LisaArnold (Post 2201643)
I have a question that I can't seaem to find an answer for...

Does the Spam-O-Matic have a unbalanced tilt towards not recognizing IP reports in favor of email reports from submissions?

I ask this because on our forum- every spammer that gets through has bad IP reports from sometimes days/months before registering with our site. They get through with a good email, but the IP comes back as previously reported. This has happened numerous times.

I find that this is the case for nearly 99% of the bans. We're using the VBulletin version of Spam-O-Matic and this problem has been on-going for at least a month if not longer.

There is no bias, if you have a check enabled, and it finds a match, registration is denied. 1's and 0's

Maybe you need to adjust your settings for StopForumSpam: Remote Expiry

If it is the default of 90 days, then if that IP spammed in the last 90 days, they should be blocked. If you have set this value too low, like 10 days for example, and the spammer didn't spam from that IP for the last 10 days, but then started spamming again on the 11th day, they would be allowed to register.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pionex (Post 2202101)
Spam-O-Matic Tagged ip - 213.163.97.20 Unable to connect to StopForumSpam.com. This is probably due to some temporary problems on their website: Unable to check. User passed to vBulletin registration system per your settings at 'StopForumSpam: Query Conne


Im not connecting to their website..... whats the issue?

Ask your web hosting company. If they can't tell you, you could always host with us. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Hewitt (Post 2202589)
I've also just been spammed by someone who doesn't appear in the logs.

That is not abnormal, SOM is not a clairvoyant, psychic or extrasense depending on what you call it in your part of the world. :)

It cant predect or detect every user who might be a spammer. Some users will get past registration and spam your forum. That is when you use the moderation tools and select the Spam-O-Matic option and (assuming you have API keys for stopforumspam.com) then you delete the posts and report the user simultaneously so that they do not come back to your board, or any other board who has this plugin installed.

=================================

Here are our current stats since the last release:

10800 Spammers Denied Registration

14 Spammers Permanently Banned

35 Spammers submitted to StopForumSpam

69 Spammy Posts Automatically Moderated

liltiger 06-05-2011 07:15 AM

Ok - now it does not notice bad words posted in private messages...

Can this be tweaked to do that?

We have issues with folks sending private messages with 'spam'.
These are not standard spam everything types, but organised real life people that like to sell other forums products from their forum. They are clever and will wait until out of quarantine and then send via private message.

I've tested and PMs are not being noticed

LisaArnold 06-05-2011 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.
There is no bias, if you have a check enabled, and it finds a match, registration is denied. 1's and 0's

Maybe you need to adjust your settings for StopForumSpam: Remote Expiry

If it is the default of 90 days, then if that IP spammed in the last 90 days, they should be blocked. If you have set this value too low, like 10 days for example, and the spammer didn't spam from that IP for the last 10 days, but then started spamming again on the 11th day, they would be allowed to register.

Thanks for your help/reply, it's much appreciated. :up:

I've got my Expiry set at 120 (is that a wrong amount?), and today I purchased & added an Akistmet API and the spammers are still getting through. I don't know what else to do. *sigh*

Anymore suggestions?

GlowHost.com 06-05-2011 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liltiger (Post 2203698)
Ok - now it does not notice bad words posted in private messages...

Can this be tweaked to do that?

We have issues with folks sending private messages with 'spam'.
These are not standard spam everything types, but organised real life people that like to sell other forums products from their forum. They are clever and will wait until out of quarantine and then send via private message.

I've tested and PMs are not being noticed

I can't think of any spammers who have so much time on their hands that they would make 10 legitimate posts and then send PM spam. Are you using the newbies group and is that group able to send PMs? Newbies should have virtually no permissions other than to post, and you set those perms in the usergroup manager.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LisaArnold (Post 2203729)
Thanks for your help/reply, it's much appreciated. :up:

I've got my Expiry set at 120 (is that a wrong amount?), and today I purchased & added an Akistmet API and the spammers are still getting through. I don't know what else to do. *sigh*

Anymore suggestions?

120 is OK, and some spammers are still going to get through. Are your statistics showing that it is working at all?

LisaArnold 06-05-2011 09:04 PM

It's stopping some, but in the last 2 - 3 months, more spammers have gotten through than it's stopped.
I just don't understand why it stopped working well, it was doing fine until we upgraded to vb-4.1.2 and don't know what changed with the upgrade, so I don't know what to fix.

Classic example - 5th June - IP: 95.84.199.154 - in a little over a month, it's had 200 reports submitted to SFS; it got through & the email - kraftma87@gmx.com - has been reported 34 times. I have no idea how it managed to still register.

Thanks for the reply though.

liltiger 06-06-2011 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2203890)
I can't think of any spammers who have so much time on their hands that they would make 10 legitimate posts and then send PM spam. Are you using the newbies group and is that group able to send PMs? Newbies should have virtually no permissions other than to post, and you set those perms in the usergroup manager.



Sorry - that is just what they do... a small group that are only interested in direct marketing of a set of products to a select market - so forums that deal with that select market are the only target.

The 'cult chieftain' has been run out of town by most organisations that deal with the subject area in question... started his own forum, but the apostles act on the process I described...

The newbies group have no permissions - but these folks will wait that out...

I thought that this product would pick up the links in the PMs - but on testing it does not do this. Any solutions?

caracena 06-06-2011 12:11 PM

Yeah, edit the PMs template and add a little text at the bottom of all outgoing PMs stating somethig like:
Quote:

Help us combat spam. If you feel this private message is spam, please click this link
I don't know... just a thought. My forum is in spanish and luckily for us, we don't have that kind of spamers.. yet.

utahraves 06-07-2011 05:48 PM

Hey friends, I really need a temporary solution for the admincp report a user... I used to have it on one of my forums but now I can't find it and I looked through like every single page on this thread (quickly glancing for attachments and/or code)... Please assist :)

Thanks

utahraves 06-07-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2203890)
I can't think of any spammers who have so much time on their hands that they would make 10 legitimate posts and then send PM spam.

I have this, actually. They'll go into threads and either copy everything that another post a long time ago said... OR... they'll read the subject and put their 2 cents into it

RowenWindsong 06-07-2011 10:05 PM

First off thanks for a great product, after using it a few weeks we have so far caught all spammers trying to register with the site, not counting unknown sleepers.

To those saying it's letting through more than it's stopping you are clearly doing something wrong or have some messed up settings.

Now I have 2 questions:

#1. I have it set via VB settings that all new users need to be approved by an admin, I have triple checked this setting and for some reason when people register and pass the SoM registration check they are getting auto approved without an admin even approving there application. Not a huge deal but I like to double check and make sure it doesn't look like a sleeper account before they get through. I'm the only admin on the site so I know it's not another admin approving them.

How can we set it so that SoM lets them register but the admin or mod still needs to approve the registration before they go live?

#2. It's great that this system catches so many spammers but having to go and manually add each rejected application to SFS's database it very taxing, especially when we are talking about amount of info I am talking about. Are there any plans to add check boxes or a 1 click option to submit all blocked/stopped spam account into to SFS's database in the future? It would be really great because having to sit down and submit 1 by 1 each spam account's into takes forever when you are dealing with hundreds of stopped spam account info each week, I think my CTRL-V key is breaking from so much copy and pasting lol.

Thanks for all you great work and looking forwards to more innovations in the future, maybe checking PM's and Forum Posts for spam material would be cool to. Have a great week.

LisaArnold 06-09-2011 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RowenWindsong (Post 2204786)
To those saying it's letting through more than it's stopping you are clearly doing something wrong or have some messed up settings.

Obviously!

Hence the reason why I'm here asking for help/advice.

Maybe someone has had the same issue and worked out what was wrong and WHY... and willing to post the answer for the rest of us having this issue.

Aramist 06-09-2011 01:45 PM

Hi guys.

This month i got many registered user in my board with @yahoo.com email.

like surgenjg84@yahoo.com

At least 3-5 each day.

Not only registering.....but they r validating the email.

How to solve this? the mod is not blocking them.

steve1966 06-10-2011 04:48 PM

please can the author update this mod it is not working correctly its causing my members to show incorrect posts counts i have uninstalled until an update is done thnak you

CardMafia 06-10-2011 05:38 PM

Uninstalled. Rejects almost all applicants to my site regardless of settings.

steviewonder44 06-10-2011 10:13 PM

Not working with vB 4.14

Ross L 06-11-2011 12:12 PM

I noticed a massive influx of spam registrations when I upgraded from 3.8 to 4.1.3 last week and this has banished them all :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Card+++++ (Post 2205922)
Uninstalled. Rejects almost all applicants to my site regardless of settings.

It's because most attempted registrations are spammers. I've tested this by manually registering using different IP's, different email hosts etc. and it's allowed all registrations. Every registration it has blocked for me, are listed as spammers in the No Forum Spam database.

Quote:

Originally Posted by steviewonder44 (Post 2206003)
Not working with vB 4.14

Working fine here.

LisaArnold 06-12-2011 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steviewonder44 (Post 2206003)
Not working with vB 4.14

I hope that's not for everyone, although I do hope you get it all worked out and SOM working for you again.

I'm thinking I might have to uninstall the SOM, do the update to vB 4.1.4, then reinstall the SOM and then keep my fingers crossed it all works like it's meant to. *sigh*

Skyrider 06-14-2011 04:37 PM

Is it possible that a button can be added at their profile to easily remove a user bot and delete all their stuff with 1 push (or 2) of a button?

steeler7 06-14-2011 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross L (Post 2206200)
I noticed a massive influx of spam registrations when I upgraded from 3.8 to 4.1.3 last week and this has banished them all :D



It's because most attempted registrations are spammers. I've tested this by manually registering using different IP's, different email hosts etc. and it's allowed all registrations. Every registration it has blocked for me, are listed as spammers in the No Forum Spam database.



Working fine here.

it's not working for me when I register with my other e-mail. Database keeps rejecting it. Any idea?

Ross L 06-14-2011 06:07 PM

Just a heads up to everyone StopForumSpam is down, so spammers will get through today.

@Steeler7 Has the issue only happened today or is this a reoccurring issue? If it has only happened today, it may be related to the StopForumSpam outage, if it is happening everyday PM me your email address and I'll try register with it on my forum, once StopForumSpam is back up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FF|Skyrider (Post 2207680)
Is it possible that a button can be added at their profile to easily remove a user bot and delete all their stuff with 1 push (or 2) of a button?

+1 on this.

steeler7 06-14-2011 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steeler7 (Post 2207692)
it's not working for me when I register with my other e-mail. Database keeps rejecting it. Any idea?

Forgot to mention that I'm running 4.1.4 as well with it not working for me. I'm getting the following error...

Quote:

Database error in vBulletin 4.1.4:

Invalid SQL:
INSERT INTO glowhostspamomatic_log(`date`, `ip`, `email`, `username`, `message`, `is_blocked`, `user_hash`) VALUES (now(), "98.239.167.36", "XXXX@mywebsite.com", "testingname2", "Spam-O-Matic Tagged username - testingname2 Unable to connect to StopForumSpam.com. This is probably due to some temporary problems on their website: Unable to check. User passed to vBulletin registration system per your settings at \'StopForumSpam: Query Connection Errors\'", "0", "0dd920e31cb73ec67f6c40fcd8bec12c");;
doesnt really matter what user name I use either and I even tried stopforumspam and no dice. Same error from both

steeler7 06-14-2011 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross L (Post 2207717)
Just a heads up to everyone StopForumSpam is down, so spammers will get through today.

@Steeler7 Has the issue only happened today or is this a reoccurring issue? If it has only happened today, it may be related to the StopForumSpam outage, if it is happening everyday PM me your email address and I'll try register with it on my forum, once StopForumSpam is back up.

Just today.

This would perfectly explain my database error i just pasted.

Thanks for the headsup!!

Ross L 06-14-2011 06:13 PM

No worries :D It's definitely caused by the StopForumSpam outage. Once they are back up, the mod should work perfectly. Keep checking http://www.stopforumspam.com to see if they are back up.

You can keep updated with StopForumSpam's outage here: http://twitter.com/#!/StopForumSpam

Bluemax712 06-14-2011 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross L (Post 2207721)
No worries :D It's definitely caused by the StopForumSpam outage. Once they are back up, the mod should work perfectly. Keep checking http://www.stopforumspam.com to see if they are back up.

You can keep updated with StopForumSpam's outage here: http://twitter.com/#!/StopForumSpam

Thanks for the Twitter link - guess he will be getting a lot more followers now

I'm amazed it runs off just one server (for now) hopefully he'll get the clustering working soon

Shanakar 06-17-2011 02:49 AM

I'm using 4.1.4 and it installed perfectly fine, only problem is it now doesn't allow anyone to register regardless of settings. I've uninstalled it and hope there will be an update.

GlowHost.com 06-17-2011 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RowenWindsong (Post 2204786)

#1. I have it set via VB settings that all new users need to be approved by an admin, I have triple checked this setting and for some reason when people register and pass the SoM registration check they are getting auto approved without an admin even approving there application. Not a huge deal but I like to double check and make sure it doesn't look like a sleeper account before they get through. I'm the only admin on the site so I know it's not another admin approving them.

How can we set it so that SoM lets them register but the admin or mod still needs to approve the registration before they go live?

This is the first report I have seen that this does not work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RowenWindsong (Post 2204786)

#2. It's great that this system catches so many spammers but having to go and manually add each rejected application to SFS's database it very taxing, especially when we are talking about amount of info I am talking about. Are there any plans to add check boxes or a 1 click option to submit all blocked/stopped spam account into to SFS's database in the future? It would be really great because having to sit down and submit 1 by 1 each spam account's into takes forever when you are dealing with hundreds of stopped spam account info each week, I think my CTRL-V key is breaking from so much copy and pasting lol.

Yes, that is one of the core functions in SOM. Its a 2 click process. Look for the Spam-O-Matic setting in your moderation tools menu. See the screenshots on the first page of this thread for the example.

Quote:

Originally Posted by steviewonder44 (Post 2206003)
Not working with vB 4.14

Anyone else have this problem?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FF|Skyrider (Post 2207680)
Is it possible that a button can be added at their profile to easily remove a user bot and delete all their stuff with 1 push (or 2) of a button?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross L (Post 2207717)
+1 on this.

This is answered on just about every page in this thread, its also in the FAQ on the first post. Look for it in V2.5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shanakar (Post 2208814)
I'm using 4.1.4 and it installed perfectly fine, only problem is it now doesn't allow anyone to register regardless of settings. I've uninstalled it and hope there will be an update.

Anyone else have this problem?

Kentoz 06-18-2011 05:29 AM

I'm using 4.1.4 and I really don't feel to have any problem with this. But I must say I'm amazed that in only 2 days I got over 100 registrations denied... Can it be that some real users are getting their registration denied or is my forum a spamming target? I'm still getting real users to register in my forum without any problem though.


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