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Gav-n-Tn 10-12-2010 12:06 AM

Wasn't there a 3.8 mod -back when- to pedigree's hack that auto-submitted to SFS if the registrar failed due to being listed on SFS already?

Alfa1 10-12-2010 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djbaxter (Post 2109209)
How is bouncing email from fake email addresses going to get you listed as a spammer? Email to the fake email address never gets anywhere to be listed as spam.

While bounces from obvious trashmail domains do not get you on the blacklist, other temporary email domains can get you on the blacklist. Blacklists are shared between email providers. As such your site can be marked as a spammer and then subscription emails stop arriving at various email domains.

Quote:

Originally Posted by djbaxter (Post 2109209)
The bottom line for me is that i do not want and will not use ANY scheme which autospams bounced email. I don't even use autodelete for spam on my server because of the potential for false positives, however low that may be. I want the option to scan what's being flagged.

You mean auto-bans bounced email?

I do not want to autoban bounced email. I want to autoban fake email domains and their aliases. I see this as one further step to make spamming a little more difficult.

Dozer826 10-30-2010 05:18 AM

Installed and within 2 hours it stopped 6 bots and did not let any in! I've been deleting about 20-25 Bots a day and it is such a pain in the butt.

Thanks so much for this, it's exactly what we were looking for!

*marked as installed! Great work!

AusPhotography 11-04-2010 12:57 AM

It works in vB4.0.7 !!

SᴩiDᴇЯ 11-18-2010 03:17 AM

If you can't provide the service of giving the API key then don't provide the mod.

I will be completely removing it from my server and never will I use this mod.

I have uninstalled this mod due to this: Message from your site,

Sorry

Due to abuse by certain people, we are currently limiting API signups to members of the forum. We are sorry that we have had to take this course of action but we hope to have things back to normal shortly

BadgerDog 11-18-2010 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SᴩiDᴇЯ (Post 2123032)
If you can't provide the service of giving the API key then don't provide the mod.

I will be completely removing it from my server and never will I use this mod.

I have uninstalled this mod due to this: Message from your site,

Sorry

Due to abuse by certain people, we are currently limiting API signups to members of the forum. We are sorry that we have had to take this course of action but we hope to have things back to normal shortly

What the heck does this mean? :confused:

So, even if you have an API key, vbStopforumSpam site no longer checks for spammers unless you join their forums?

Regards,
Badger

GlowHost.com 11-18-2010 05:06 PM

Where did you see this written? Do you have a link?

pedigree 11-18-2010 05:30 PM

Firstly, SᴩiDᴇЯ has zero idea what hes talking about

I stopped the system from being able to bulk issue API keys to anonymous users who simply provided an email address. We made it so that you needed to sign up to the forum, to validate your email address and thus record where you were coming from IN ORDER TO SUBMIT DATA

Then you could get an API key to SUBMIT to the database. You DONT NEED an api key in order to use the api.

I believe that you simply didnt read the mod details as it says "You need to have an API key from www.stopforumspam.com in order to submit data, its free and easy to get... You DONT need an API key in order to use this mod however, only to submit spammer data." Just under the big red letters. Unlike other lists of spammers, BotScout, project honeypot etc, where you are required to register to read the database, we dont do that.

If you want to remove the mod, then please do. Infact, I hope that you do, so that I dont have to deal with you again. Can you say "gift horse mouth"

As someone who obviously runs a forum, would you let people post on your forum without logging in or registering? No? Well, now, neither do we. For all the pain of joining our community to use a service provided for free, is that just perhaps a little too much to ask huh?

Gav-n-Tn 11-18-2010 05:58 PM

I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to join the SFS forum anyway. Lots of great folks and plenty of good community advice. My plug for SFS :)

Apparently someone was fatigued when reading the message about the API.

biftek 12-01-2010 02:29 AM

not sure if this has been answered and i don't feel like reading the whole 70 posts
i have this mod installed on my site , every so often it blocks legit people , is there anyway around this ?

djbaxter 12-01-2010 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biftek (Post 2127767)
not sure if this has been answered and i don't feel like reading the whole 70 posts
i have this mod installed on my site , every so often it blocks legit people , is there anyway around this ?

Yes. Have it check email addresses only. If you want to screen out more spammers but increase the risk of blocking non-spammers, have it also check IP adresses. Don't have it check names.

Gav-n-Tn 12-01-2010 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biftek (Post 2127767)
not sure if this has been answered and i don't feel like reading the whole 70 posts
i have this mod installed on my site , every so often it blocks legit people , is there anyway around this ?

Technically, they are not legite in one of the three areas that it checks or they would not get rejected. Alot of persons use roaming IPs or have had their IPs "piggy backed" by spammers. The only way around that is to allow registrations even though they fail the check OR register them manually through your CP.

djbaxter 12-01-2010 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gav-n-Tn (Post 2127779)
Technically, they are not legite in one of the three areas that it checks or they would not get rejected. Alot of persons use roaming IPs or have had their IPs "piggy backed" by spammers. The only way around that is to allow registrations even though they fail the check OR register them manually through your CP.

IP addresses may be legimately shared in a number of circumstances:
  • AOL uses a limited number of proxies for all their users
  • college and university students typically have shared IP addresses
  • in countries with limited internet access users will commonly share IP addresses
  • etc.
That's why barring according to IP address isn't a great idea.

Gav-n-Tn 12-01-2010 03:42 AM

Even so, if those IPs have been reported to SFS as a spammers' IP, it will reject them.

djbaxter 12-01-2010 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gav-n-Tn (Post 2127782)
Even so, if those IPs have been reported to SFS as a spammers' IP, it will reject them.

Only if you check the option to scan for IP addresses. See my post above.

Gav-n-Tn 12-01-2010 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djbaxter (Post 2127786)
Only if you check the option to scan for IP addresses. See my post above.

True. You can do that. I've found that -in just my own experience- very few legite registrants are turned down though.

thespi 12-01-2010 06:10 PM

This is great but it stops Facebook connect

Gav-n-Tn 12-01-2010 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thespi (Post 2128054)
This is great but it stops Facebook connect

I just added the social networks myself. I don't use the one provided. Mine is in each thread at the top. Good info here for those using it though.

AusPhotography 12-15-2010 08:19 PM

I cant' access www.stopforumspam.com ?? Anyone else having problems?

kylek 12-15-2010 08:24 PM

Yup, looks like its down, just banned 10 in the last half hour.

Chimpie 12-15-2010 08:27 PM

Down for me as well, but nothing on their Twitter page.

www.twitter.com/stopforumspam

AusPhotography 12-15-2010 08:41 PM

ping www.stopforumspam.com
Ping request could not find host www.stopforumspam.com. Please check the name and try again.

Looks bad.

Chimpie 12-15-2010 08:48 PM

I'm sure the problem is only temporary. I've sent an email listed in the whois. Hopefully it's up to date.

Chimpie 12-15-2010 09:18 PM

It appears to be back up at this time.

Gav-n-Tn 12-15-2010 10:16 PM

LOL. You can tell when they're down too. Database errors and registrations with those typically stupid spammer usernames.

Delphiprogrammi 12-16-2010 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snoopytas (Post 2134447)
ping www.stopforumspam.com
Ping request could not find host www.stopforumspam.com. Please check the name and try again.

Looks bad.

that says nothing this can also being caused by a firewall blocking ping requests

tryckj?vel 12-31-2010 12:28 AM

installed... so easy to do btw.

Snagged up 3 spammers registering within 5 minutes of being installed... that alone was worth it... awesome!!1

relaxiha 01-01-2011 06:10 PM

hello
plz upgrade this plugin

djbaxter 01-01-2011 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by relaxiha (Post 2142393)
hello
plz upgrade this plugin

Why? It doesn't need upgrading.

Use the version in this thread for vBulletin 3.x.

For vBulletin 4.x, use the version at https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=230921

SamirDarji 01-04-2011 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by relaxiha (Post 2142393)
hello
plz upgrade this plugin

And if you're having problems with the plugin, you can still look up spammers manually at stopforumspam.com. Great plugin, great idea. I've been able to eliminate 100% of potential spammers.

jbird310 01-05-2011 05:58 AM

This mod is awesome! I was having a problem with spam bots signing up and posting links 10-20 times a day, but after installing this mod, I haven't had ONE spam bot registration in over 3 months. Amazing!!!!

I also combined it with another hack to moderate any post with [URL] in it if the user has less than 5 posts. This double defense works like a charm!!

chrisvonc 01-07-2011 09:45 PM

Thank you for this mod. It seems like the spambots kicked it into high gear last week because I suddenly started seeing 100's of accounts being created. I installed it last night and not even 24 hours later, its blocked over 500 spam accounts. I had anohter 10 that got through but I caught them with my additional required question.

The only thing on my personal wish list for this would be the ability to add a trigger to block these when a certain entry is made in that question field.

Again thank you very much!

AndyN 01-08-2011 12:59 AM

I have installed this mod on our forum due to the recent increase in spammers - and is working great. Question: any links to code to quickly submit spammers that get through to stopforumspam? thanks.

tarot 01-09-2011 02:07 PM

Thank you for your work, this has saved the day :)

Suiram 01-10-2011 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedigree (Post 2063267)
It seems that someone has written a script of some sort that go through every IP in the database, user, posts, I dont know, but some forums have hit the database 80,000 times in a couple of hours.

This has resulted in perm bans from the API for abuse.

Please dont abuse the API. If you require more than 5000 queries a day, ask us first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by snoopytas (Post 2134447)
ping www.stopforumspam.com
Ping request could not find host www.stopforumspam.com. Please check the name and try again.

Looks bad.

the perfect solution would be to not have to rely on any 3rd party for the database. why not have an option to have forum owners create and use their own database? (since their forum already uses one, it's a no brainer) whilst some would prefer to have a frequently updated "general" database as it is now, you could still import a new list of usernames/ip's/email addresses each week/month if you wanted. or at least have two versions. one as it is, and the other 99% the same except that it would use your own servers/database.

GlowHost.com 01-10-2011 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suiram (Post 2146797)
the perfect solution would be to not have to rely on any 3rd party for the database. why not have an option to have forum owners create and use their own database? (since their forum already uses one, it's a no brainer) whilst some would prefer to have a frequently updated "general" database as it is now, you could still import a new list of usernames/ip's/email addresses each week/month if you wanted. or at least have two versions. one as it is, and the other 99% the same except that it would use your own servers/database.

Someone doesn't understand the idea behind this mod I guess.

So today, you see a new spammer on your forum, then you ban him, and he is in your internal database. Tomorrow, he changes his post, username, and IP, and spams your board again. Then you ban him manually again. And you do this every day. Maybe several times per day.

You probably do not need this mod if you do not understand why it is so useful or how spam works, in general. There is absolutely no question that this type of service must rely on a 3rd party database and an internal DB is going to be 100% useless for almost every site out there.

Suiram 01-10-2011 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2147016)
Someone doesn't understand the idea behind this mod I guess.

So today, you see a new spammer on your forum, then you ban him, and he is in your internal database. Tomorrow, he changes his post, username, and IP, and spams your board again. Then you ban him manually again. And you do this every day. Maybe several times per day.

You probably do not need this mod if you do not understand why it is so useful or how spam works, in general. There is absolutely no question that this type of service must rely on a 3rd party database and an internal DB is going to be 100% useless for almost every site out there.

i understand perfectly. it's about control. i did say you could have it on a user's forum but still get updates from a centrally maintained database. the point IS, the site goes down or shuts down bit by bit and the mod is useless too. what i'm suggesting is that we not have to rely on a 3rd party. and do you think some jerks don't submit genuine emails and such just for fun? and i did not look at the names in the list but does it mean if some spammer uses John or any other real and popular name it's blacklisted?

whatever man, you rage against the machine. whilst the site now (still) offers free "support", how long will it last? and not just how long, but why rely on it hosting this "valuable" database?

again, you don't understand. it could work just like it does now except the forum also keeps a local database that gets daily/weekly updates.

Rik Brown 01-11-2011 09:47 AM

Fantastic mod! Works great. Thanks. -- Rik

zaine68 01-11-2011 10:47 PM

Thanks for the mod, it seems to work a treat but either I've missed it some where in the install or the mod replies but I cant find the log file. Its not listed under Stats and Logs. I've uploaded everything in the upload folder as instructed to do and made sure they got the right permissions too. Any ideas? Forum is 3.8.2 at present.

Cheers, Chris

ETDC 01-12-2011 05:53 PM

Don't forget folks, the efficiency of this mod and the database relies on you submitting manually to SFS all those spammers who aren't in the database.


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