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Look at the VB options for VB Enterprise Translator and search for "Flags Place", there you can change the position. |
2.3.5 RELEASED
Important change! According to new Google conditions referrer header must be added to each translation query - otherwise you can be banned by Google. Install this version to avoid any troubles. Changes: - Added referrer header for Google translation queries - Corrected bug for returning to forum main page from translated page Also according to actual Google conditions your "Powered by Google" information should have Google logo. So please change in your vBET configuration, text for flags to something like this: Code:
Automatic Translations (Powered by <span style="vertical-align:sub;"><img src="http://www.google.com/uds/css/small-logo.png" alt="Powered by Google" border="0"/></span>): |
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I just checked the API, and there was no text in the TOS requiring a logo, only "Powered by Google". Please provide a link to the TOS where a logo is also required. Thanks. |
Here is the Google TOS that governs this API:
http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxsearch/terms.html I searched that TOS and it does not mention "header" anywhere. So... please, please, post the link to the TOS you are speaking about. Inquiring minds want to know :D |
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About indexing the new sites - each forum in other tempo. It depends how many those new pages you have and how often and fast Google crawls on your site. |
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Also - please note that it is advised to use SEO links type (you can use it without any SEO engine). This language= type should be treated as obsolete. |
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http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.co...-features.html Of course vBET 2.x supports SEO links type (just don't translates it). Your issues are because you made something wrong in your configuration. It is clearly described in parameter description that you have to set appropriate .htaccess rules - you have even link to article which describes how (it is here in first post). Just do what is described - AND DO IT ALL. It is obvious that it will break if you make mess. Fallow instructions and it will be fine :) If you will do EVERYTHING as is described and will still have some issues, then PM me. |
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That is why I am confused because you said there was a "change in the TOS" but there has been no change in the Google TOS. Also, you said that Google requires their logo or that they will ban the user. That is also not correct. Google's TOS does not require a logo. It requires "Powered by Google." (text). Having said that... the Google logo is very nice and we use it :D Also, there is nothing in the Google TOS that requires a referral header during database queries. |
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It might be "good" or "nice" to add the logo, but it is certainly not required by the "actual Google conditions" (and you said). This is unlike you NPL-er !! You are normally very factual. Are you under some stress or pressure? Take it easy!!! :D |
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It really a little bit overloaded. |
Thanks for the help.
Everything is fine now. :up: |
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Also please take attention that there was 2 links. And under this one (http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxlang...tion/#Branding) you can find: When your application uses the Google AJAX Language APIs, it is important to communicate the Google brand to your users And of course you can discuss that vBET is not using Google AJAX API, but CURL, and you can discuss that it is recommendation, but what for waiting till Google ban your forum to make this discussion?... Quote:
Sorry for confusion. Quote:
At this moment I have information straight from Google that "Powered by Google" should include the logo and I will fit it in default configuration. Every user can make own decision about keeping it or not - it is configurable :) I will not put my users in risk to be banned because of unclarity in TOS or wrong understanding of TOS by Google own personnel if I have simple way to avoid any potential issues in this area. This is how I manage the risk. Sorry for confusion - I didn't read whole TOS from the begging - I just used information straight from Google, and still I think that it is wiser to set Google logo than put yourself in the risk of being banned. Quote:
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You assumed that all conditions are in one place - and this is not safe assumption. You can find TOS on other pages too - this particular you will find here: http://code.google.com/intl/pl-PL/ap...l#_intro_fonje "Applications MUST always include a valid and accurate http referer header in their requests." Big letters in MUST are not added by me - it is written this way in Google documentation, so i think that clearly marks Google position in this area :) |
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Also you are wrong about referral header. You assumed that all conditions are in one place - and this is not safe assumption. You can find TOS on other pages too - this particular you will find here: http://code.google.com/intl/pl-PL/ap...l#_intro_fonje "Applications MUST always include a valid and accurate http referer header in their requests." Big letters in MUST are not added by me - it is written this way in Google documentation, so i think that clearly marks Google position in this area :) Quote:
BTW - Are you a lawyer? I'm looking one, because some guy stole my code, and I see that you like to use exact words, even if substitute has same meaning, so I thought that maybe you can help me with my issue :) If yes please PM me - thanks:up: Quote:
So is there really any issue or it is only about using exact words from documentation and being better in reading it? You are better :) and I still care about my users, so my recommendation is still the same - use Google logo :) Reading 2 posts in row about the same + PM, I get impression that it is only about proving some point and It has totally no reflection in reality since you applied Google logo yourself. So what is the real point here, and can we close it? Quote:
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Truly saying I still don't see the point - what is the point of having right when you loose and your forum is banned?... When people are with me, they are with the man who thinks how to win... Sounds like commercial :D haha Quote:
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Always you can just remove from sitemap some translations or all of those - at the end spiders will find it by links on forum, but you have less control then and it can take longer (i think :)). |
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Are there statistics with which language you can get most traffic? |
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Your tag <!--START vBET NOT TRANSLATED AREA--> and <!--END vBET NOT TRANSLATED AREA-->, works fine for every language expcept the home language. There, the tag is completely shown on browser title. I just recognized it after my last post and removed it cause it doesn't look that nice. ;) And I think I didn't make something wrong because in other languages, the tag does what it should. |
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difficult to say. English on Top (my Forum is German) in total numbers but interstig are:
So my site is ranked very hight in Google, and if somebody don?t find what he is looking for, on my page, maybe he find something in the Ad?s. :o And it look like that Google compare that with the other Content of the site. I do have twice more indexed pages for Portuguese than for other languages. My site is about Brazil an i ever had some pages and and Post in Portuguese without translation. Christian |
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Are there languages you never got any traffic? If you think about percentages of traffic from these languages, how high are they? |
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The email you provided does not say "include logo" and the TOS does not say include logo. It is not necessary to make people afraid over something very small! Be factual !! Also, sorry to tell you, is not necessary to be a "lawyer" as you said, to understand the Google TOS. The TOS is very clear. No logo is required. This is easy to see. What is NOT clear is your email, which says things about the Google TOS that are not in the TOS nor in Google's email you posted. Protecting people is not the same as spreading "fear, uncertainty, and doubt" .. as I said. Be factual. Post facts. There are no secrets about the Google TOS. AND, regarding one user being "blocked' .... we have no exact reason they were blocked. There are many reasons that Google can block a user, and without posting the exact reason, you need to be careful not to simple give misinformation, fear, uncertainty and doubt, without facts that do not match the TOS. Hahahaha. Where is the exact reason?? It certainly was not because of a logo or "Powered by Google" .. the forum you are talking about must have done something else seriously wrong ! So far, we have read nothing from the Google TOS or from your email (posting from the forum) that confirms the each reason one of your users was blocked. Maybe they broken many other TOS? Maybe they did many things wrong. It has nothing to do with logos, etc. It is not necessary to go beyond the Google TOS. Google does not block good forums doing "good things"..... Google's philosophy is "Do No Harm"... Please post the exact reason one user was blocked, according to Google. Anyway, you say you are "protecting people" but that means you must also be precise, factual and actual about the Google TOS. Posting emotional fear, uncertainty and doubt is not good for anyone. So far, there are very little fact here.... Anyway, nevermind... if you want to be the mother goose of users and spread fear without fact, that is your right. I hope you will be more accurate about these things. The Google TOS did not change. The fact are not clear why your user forum was blocked. The email you posted said nothing new or unknown. |
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I'm not sure, but as I remember you can find it in wikipedia. If I'm wrong please someone correct me :) |
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But you still can handle this :D It is enough to add simple condition in your template (note that this is necessary ONLY inside of attributes - in other places it is just not shown by browser): Code:
<if condition="$_GET['language]"><!--START vBET NOT TRANSLATED AREA--></if> |
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http://code.google.com/intl/pl-PL/ap...l#_intro_fonje "Applications MUST always include a valid and accurate http referer header in their requests." http://code.google.com/intl/pl-PL/ap...tion/#Branding "it is important to communicate the Google brand to your users" And it appears to be important enough to get info from google about this: Quote:
So there is no information which I gave and has no coverage in reality. In fact - the reality triggers it. And the reality is that one page was banned/blocked. And as you wrote we do not know exact reason of banning/bocking, but we know that ALL things which I described was considered relevant during unbanning/unblocking procedure so each one of those could be also an reason and if not - still was necessary for unbanning/unblocking. I understand that you would made other choices with your users. I made my and I'm strongly convinced that it is really good choice - to give my users best solution as fast as possible which will remove from theme banning/blocking threat. You have full right to think whatever you want about it and also to give your suggestions for future which are appreciated. Still if you ask questions, then please accept answers, especially when answers are straight from Google, instead of ignoring those and repeat over and over that there was no reason. I understand that you could see no reason, but You was asking about my reasons of my actions and those where already given to you. I see nothing more to tell in this topic. All sources you have included. There is no more. Great thanks for your advices - I really appreciate it as those come from man who has lot of experience in this area. I totally agree that making people feel fear is not good, but I (I I I) saw real threat here and made MY actions to make my users rally feel safe with new release. I hope that thanks that users can trust to this product as one which takes care about them. Thanks and enjoy :) |
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Perhaps someone can provide one? Because I?m thinking about purchasing the full version this month. |
works like a charm
is there any possibility to add different kinda advertisements for different language pages ? |
Against all critics, first class support! :up:
I'll try what you adviced. Sorry to bother, but I got something else. :o I got the SEO URLs activated and navigation through my forum works fine, no problems. But on forumhome, when I'm not using my home language (german), the flags (language links) look like this: (choosen language english) spanish: mysite.de/es/?language=en french: mysite.de/fr/?language=en back to german: mysite.de/?language=en So I can't change a language on forumhome. Within the threads and forumdisplay, also no problems. Is this my misconfiguration or a bug? |
let me rephrase myself
is there any IF-CONDITIONS to specify a particular content or image to be shown on a specific language only |
I think, It is not working on VBSuite Beta3 ?
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Hey NLP-er!
Does your mod with the new vBSEO 3.2.0 and 3.3.x security patch just released? http://www.vbseo.com/f5/vbseo-securi...eleased-38487/ |
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Also it looks a bit like it is hardcoded ?language=en in flag - did you made changes in flags templates? |
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1. Mandarin Chinese - 882 million 2. Spanish - 325 million 3. English - 312-380 million 4. Arabic - 206-422 million 5. Hindi - 181 million 6. Portuguese - 178 million 7. Bengali - 173 million 8. Russian - 146 million 9. Japanese - 128 million 10. German - 96 million Also I start feeling like I should learn Chinese in school instead of English... HAHAHA :D |
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