I have both an IPB and vB license, and my vB future rests solely on vB4.

True, but the discounts part was posted after the leaked information was, often by Ray Morgan himself.

Hopefully by the end of the month vb will give us a big update with what exactly is going on.

That would be the best case scenario, and would certainly stop all the fighting over on the .com site.

<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=313353" target="_blank">http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=313353</a>

Four to five weeks :\

If it is going to take 5 weeks at best for the alpha ....then at this rate it will take at least 3 more months for the Beta. Way behind the original schedule.

Yes, we are going to see the private Alpha (only selected members) including me in end of August or early September, this Alpha probably will run for a month, so you will then see the private Beta (selected people) in October and it will run until november for private viewing, that left only December, I dont expect Alpha and Beta without any bugs, so Beta will run for private for a month or 2, so you will get your vb4 by the end of this year/or new year or as Christmas gift.

anyway, announcing the news without knowing the exactly ETA of the product has burden customers and 3rd party service provider like me - vb skins , sales are declining because people keep waiting the anticipated vb4.

Something to learn is not to make news if you cannot make it a news, and another thing is better late then never.

I hope we get news regarding pricing before I have to renew my owned license. Thats all I care about as i'm sure many others do too

That's of starting ALPHA TESTING. Which is a bit disappointing really.

I'm probably one of the few people that is happy that alpha is being put off so far from the original estimate. I will hopefully be home in time for alpha testing now.