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mfyvie 06-27-2007 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bravo2007 (Post 1277613)
do you have a beta for this that can be used?
looks awesome nice job so far

I understand that people will be very keen to get their hands on it. However, I have to make sure that everything runs properly on my system first, so I am taking extra care with this. If something doesn't work as designed it has the potential not just to alert the wrong users, but to wipe out or invalidate the existing cookie data that users of the existing version have been using.

Therefore I'm not prepared to let it out in the wild for a beta just yet until I have finished the few extra things I want to put into the backend. When it's just a matter of putting the front end on, then I'll probably let a few people who are willing to test use a beta.

I'll announce that on this thread when it is appropriate, but unfortunately I can't give a time for that at this stage :-(

mfyvie 06-29-2007 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nocte (Post 1277126)
Imagine this situation (we accutally have this issue):

There?s a Club with a public internet terminal. Many forum users log in there.

The Club?s owner has an account too as well as many more fake accounts to promote his club.

Sometimes the owner uses his own PC ? so we can be quite sure that in that case all multiple accounts are fake accounts.

Sometimes the owner uses the public PC ? in that case we can?t distinguish between normal users and the owner?s fake accounts.

So let?s imagine the owner clears the browser cache on his private computer and logs in again with several of his accounts. In this case we have to wait and watch again for a while till we can guess whether he?s using the public or the private PC (in other words: if we can ban all multiple accounts or if there may be normal users among them)

Did I make myself clear? When public computers are involved it may be very comfortable to have system data as well.

OK, I can see your point here. Problems like that are very hard to track down. Having the IP address or extra information about the PC might not help in a case like that - they might be identical installations. One thing you might like is the logging feature, if the accounts are being created or used in quick succession this is much easier to spot in a log than by searching for and examining the profiles of individual users.

I've extended a few extra things based on suggestions. IP address first on cookie and last on cookie is now reported, as well as each individual first / last IP for a user on a given cookie. The browser user agent string is stored and reported, as well as the list of accepted languages from that browser. Screen resolution is a little harder to capture and requires the use of javascript. I don't really want to go down that road at this stage just for that information.

nocte 06-29-2007 04:29 PM

Quote:

I've extended a few extra things based on suggestions. IP address first on cookie and last on cookie is now reported, as well as each individual first / last IP for a user on a given cookie. The browser user agent string is stored and reported, as well as the list of accepted languages from that browser.
thank you :)

gim 06-29-2007 10:32 PM

Very good! :D

mfyvie 06-30-2007 01:29 PM

Version 2.0 now ready for beta

Those of you who have expressed interest in beta testing the latest version I have been talking about will be pleased to know that it is ready for beta testing.

At this point only the "back end" is complete. But since the original version of this mod was only the back end, I can't see that anyone is going to complain because all the front end functions aren't complete!

If you would like to apply to become a beta tester the following conditions apply:

  • Be able to read and follow instructions
  • Upgrade to newer versions promptly if I send you an update
  • Be willing to give feedback about the mod
  • You should have a forum which gets quite busy. The busier and bigger the forum, the better this mod will be tested!
  • Be willing to tinker around with the various settings, cross-reference the log files and generally investigate what is going on. If you love catching out lying users as much as I do, you are going to have fun with this mod
You can apply to become a beta tester by sending me an email (not a PM) via the send email function in my profile. That will be the first test of whether you can follow instructions, if you don't send an email, you failed that test :D.

I will then send you the file (it is still a single .xml file) and communication with the other beta testers will then be done by way of traditional email, since we don't need to clutter up this thread with the details.

Just to make something clear: Version 2.0 of this mod will be released separately. The original concept and a small amount of code from mpdev's original version have been used. I sought permission from him to redevelop and release this new version before I wrote a single line of code, and I reaffirmed that arrangement a few days ago just to be sure that I had his blessing.

Beta testers who will be upgrading from the original version will be happy to know that all the existing cookies out there (which I have named legacy cookies) will be imported and re-issued into the new format. This means that all that data you are currently tracking out there will not be lost!

I expect this beta test to last for about one month. Once I have enough testers I will not accept any more applications. I will update this thread when that happens.



Fungsten 06-30-2007 05:55 PM

Quote:

You can apply to become a beta tester by sending me an email (not a PM) via the send email function in my profile. That will be the first test of whether you can follow instructions, if you don't send an email, you failed that test :D.
First bug. You are not accepting emails through your Profile. :eek:

mfyvie 06-30-2007 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fungsten (Post 1280042)
First bug. You are not accepting emails through your Profile. :eek:

That's very strange, I just checked and my settings definitely allow email from other members! If for some reason it doesn't work then send me a PM with your email address.

oicyu8chu 06-30-2007 07:20 PM

Very useful. Appreciate this.

Choo

NeitherSparky 07-01-2007 05:16 AM

I won't volunteer for beta testing because I don't think I could get results back to you quickly, as I only get one to maybe five or six new registrants per day and of course most of them are not registering a second account. But I wish you luck, because I want this mod when it is released to the rest of us. :up:

Ceege 07-16-2007 07:32 PM

Any update on this?


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