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croportal 01-13-2006 08:15 PM

yes immortal i think that you correct with new posts thing because this is duplicate content

sorry for my bad english

Dean C 01-13-2006 08:19 PM

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Technically, that is false. If you use newposts, and rewrites, SEs will flag this as double content, and removes the entire purpose of a SEO hack other then better indexing. Once a SE thinks you have double content, it is not the best thing especially for many many occurrences. So that is not true, and I would appreciate it if you stop giving out false information in my thread.
Well I'd disagree entirely. The (lastpost link) showthread.php?t=x&goto=newpost serves a function. Upon clicking it, it redirects you to another page. So adding a rewrite for this page only serves a purpose for consistency. Lastpost IS duplicate content because it's showing the same content @ two different URLs. It should definately have rel="nofollow" added to it, and rewriting it is pointless, as all it does is redirect to another page.

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Competition bittin' at your ankles there a bit Dean?
All competition is good competition ;) Besides, I'll be recommending people don't migrate from yours to mine (until I make a compatible way for users to migrate without getting a) duplicate content and b) URL inconsistencies)

Immortal 01-13-2006 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean C
Well I'd disagree entirely. The (lastpost link) showthread.php?t=x&goto=newpost serves a function. Upon clicking it, it redirects you to another page. So adding a rewrite for this page only serves a purpose for consistency. Lastpost IS duplicate content because it's showing the same content @ two different URLs. It should definately have rel="nofollow" added to it, and rewriting it is pointless, as all it does is redirect to another page.

You would never want to add a nofollow link on a redirect, now that is just madness. Not only is it removing your showthread URL, but the new post. Now that is just insanity, and I would never recommend that in a million years as that will severely hurt your forum.

In order to properly fix newpost, you need to rewrite the URL itself, and then the function. This will help SEs better navigate and will never end up on showthread.php itself. I would never suggest you not rewriting newpost - as SEs will just flag that as double content and will remove your site or penalize it if it occurs many times.



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Originally Posted by Dean C
;) Besides, I'll be recommending people don't migrate from yours to mine (until I make a compatible way for users to migrate without getting a) duplicate content and b) URL inconsistencies)

You don't seem to worried about duplicate content if you don't worry about newpost at all. And there will be no URL inconsistencies if the proper 404 page is used correctly, and with the brilliance of Google Sitemaps - switching URLs is as easy as snap of a thumb. It is safe to change URLs every once in awhile, any respectable SEO expert will tell you that, if done properly. Even in the first place, meaning majority of URLs is rewritten.

Dean C 01-13-2006 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Immortal
You would never want to add a nofollow link on a redirect, now that is just madness. Not only is it removing your showthread URL, but the new post. Now that is just insanity, and I would never recommend that in a million years as that will severely hurt your forum.

In order to properly fix newpost, you need to rewrite the URL itself, and then the function. This will help SEs better navigate and will never end up on showthread.php itself. I would never suggest you not rewriting newpost - as SEs will just flag that as double content and will remove your site or penalize it if it occurs many times.

It is not removing any URL; threads are indexed by the spider going into the forum and then entering threads etc. The only forseeable reason for rewriting the lastpost/newpost links in the lastpost column, as I've said already, is for consistency. This is why I have added rel=nofollow to the lastpost links, because even if you rewrite it, it's two different URLs as the search engine will end up at two URLs for the thread, showthread.php?p=x and yourthreadurl.html.

Dean C 01-13-2006 08:50 PM

An example:

http://www.hosting-talk.com/links-an...9-newpost.html

is redirected to:

http://www.hosting-talk.com/showthre...?p=681#post681

But the content is also available on this page:
http://www.hosting-talk.com/announce...ctory-669.html

Immortal 01-13-2006 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean C
It is not removing any URL; threads are indexed by the spider going into the forum and then entering threads etc. The only forseeable reason for rewriting the lastpost/newpost links in the lastpost column, as I've said already, is for consistency. This is why I have added rel=nofollow to the lastpost links, because even if you rewrite it, it's two different URLs as the search engine will end up at two URLs for the thread, showthread.php?p=x and yourthreadurl.html.

If you are adding nofollow to the last post/new post, it is. As soon as a SE comes across a nofollow, it will stop. Meaning, that won't exist, only by forumdisplay, similar etc. But it will not be found by last post/new post. And as I've said before, that is why you rewrite the function so it will not end up at showthread.php?p=id#postpostid.

As I've said before, and I'll say it again, please stop posting false information in my thread.

Immortal 01-13-2006 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean C

And that is the only bug that is preventing it from me releasing it as stable. If you are using showthread.php it defeats any SEO rewrite advantages. Ask any known SEO expert.

This is not a place to discuss such things, as this is a support thread for vRewrite, I appreciate it if you post it in the correct forum and not in my thread.


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Originally Posted by Danny.VBT
...Please do not bring up any other similiar modifications or anything else for that matter, it is not fair to the author and anyone else looking for valuable content concerning the hack. If you feel you need to discuss a hack or multiple hacks, you can do so maturely in an independent thread in the General Modifications Forum.


Dean C 01-13-2006 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Immortal
If you are adding nofollow to the last post/new post, it is. As soon as a SE comes across a nofollow, it will stop. Meaning, that won't exist, only by forumdisplay, similar etc. But it will not be found by last post/new post. And as I've said before, that is why you rewrite the function so it will not end up at showthread.php?p=id#postpostid.

As I've said before, and I'll say it again, please stop posting false information in my thread.

There is only one person posting false information here, and that is you :)

<a href="link1.php?goto=1" rel="nofollow">a</a>
<a href="link1.php">b</a>

Out of those two links b will be entered. Search engines don't remember rel="nofollow". If you have two identical anchors on a page, one with rel="nofollow", it'll still enter the one without rel="nofollow" on it. And in fact, your modification does redirect to showthread.php?p=id#postpostid, as illustrated in the post before yours. So in essence, you're rewriting a link which internally redirects to showthread.php?t=x&goto=neworlastpost and then externall redirects to showthread.php?p=id#postpostid, which is completely pointless.

Edit: - I'm not talking about my modification at the moment, I'm discussing the reasoning behind why lastpost/newpost has no necessity to be rewritten.

Dean C 01-13-2006 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Immortal
And that is the only bug that is preventing it from me releasing it as stable. If you are using showthread.php it defeats any SEO rewrite advantages. Ask any known SEO expert.

The idea behind adding rel="nofollow" to the showthread links which serve a function, is that they never get indexed.

bold 01-13-2006 09:41 PM

Alright, quit flirting you two.


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