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Decado 01-11-2006 09:02 AM

Revan the modifying of code in itself is not illegal, and the free supply of this code, if it is not for sale elsewhere, is also *in most countries* legal. In some countries copyright also gives the right to refuse any distribution. Assuming that these people do not originate from one of these countries, then supplying installation for a fee is perfectly legal. Of course you cold jsut as easily revoke permission to use the code from these sites, and file a DMCA notification to their hosts ;)

Asi9ine 01-11-2006 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nir
When does the uCash & uShop mod will release ?

STOP ASKING! CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

S T O P A S K I N G !

I have reported you to an Admin, and I hope they will deal with you. I am sick of the way you are taking the p***.

Revan 01-11-2006 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decado
Revan the modifying of code in itself is not illegal, and the free supply of this code, if it is not for sale elsewhere, is also *in most countries* legal. In some countries copyright also gives the right to refuse any distribution. Assuming that these people do not originate from one of these countries, then supplying installation for a fee is perfectly legal. Of course you cold jsut as easily revoke permission to use the code from these sites, and file a DMCA notification to their hosts ;)

What is different here is that the rules and regulations regarding work released online NOT under the GPL does not count based on the laws of each country. And unless explicitly stated otherwise, vBulletin.org hacks are released free for use and personal modification. What is not allowed is to modify and release code ("modify" meaning making slight changes as in fixing a bug, converting to new versions of the "mother software" in this case vB) either for free or for a fee, without the authors consent.
If they completely rewrote the hack, thus making it hard (if not impossible) to find the original code, they would obviously be allowed to sell it, and branding it uShop would just be disrespectful.
If what you are saying applied then I could simply travel to the Seychelles or wherever, resell pirated software, hack servers or basically break any other Internet law you can think of. Which quite frankly I don't beleive for a second is possible.

Decado 01-11-2006 03:53 PM

Well i hate to break it to you, but it is. I point out to you the several swedish torrent sites, which continue to run because swedish law does not yet prohibit them. The fact is if its not illegal in the country of origin, then the person CANNOT be charged for it. Its really quite simple.

if its not illegal where you are - you can't get charged for it.

At most an extradition request could be put in to allow the person to be deported to a country to be charged for breaking its laws, but i don't see that happening over this, do you?

it's never a good idea to assume anything about the law just because it seems liek it should, or shouldn't be that way. At the end of the day unless its illegal in the country the person is originating from, there isn't much you can do about it. Put it this way - you're local PD arent going to be able to arrest someone in the seychelles, are they? neither will any member of your countries law enforcement, because they have no jurisdiction in that country. It's really a rather simple concept.

Asi9ine 01-11-2006 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decado
Well i hate to break it to you, but it is. I point out to you the several swedish torrent sites, which continue to run because swedish law does not yet prohibit them. The fact is if its not illegal in the country of origin, then the person CANNOT be charged for it. Its really quite simple.

if its not illegal where you are - you can't get charged for it.

At most an extradition request could be put in to allow the person to be deported to a country to be charged for breaking its laws, but i don't see that happening over this, do you?

it's never a good idea to assume anything about the law just because it seems liek it should, or shouldn't be that way. At the end of the day unless its illegal in the country the person is originating from, there isn't much you can do about it. Put it this way - you're local PD arent going to be able to arrest someone in the seychelles, are they? neither will any member of your countries law enforcement, because they have no jurisdiction in that country. It's really a rather simple concept.

Which country does this DNForum originate in?

Decado 01-11-2006 04:08 PM

I have no idea, i was just pointing out the possibilities.

Startinfresh 01-11-2006 04:45 PM

Hope all is going well with the uShop!!

TyleR 01-11-2006 04:53 PM

@Decado: No code, even edited code, is subject to sale without the written consent of Matthew Gordon (Link14716) or Zachery.

From the uCash/uShop files:

Code:

/*======================================================================*\
|| #################################################################### ||
|| # uShop Hack Version 1.0.0                                        # ||
|| # ---------------------------------------------------------------- # ||
|| # A Geeky Designs Production!                                      # ||
|| # PHP Code by: squall14716                                        # ||
|| # Templates by: Zachery                                            # ||
|| # This may not be redistributated without consent from Geeky Designs ||
|| # Copyright 2005-2006 Geeky Designs                                    # ||
|| #################################################################### ||
\*======================================================================*/


BrandiDup 01-11-2006 04:56 PM

I just installed uCash and can not wait to try out uShop! I've never used it before but it definitely sounds like something worth waiting for. Thanks for stepping up and getting this done for everyone. If I knew anything at all about coding or testing, I would most certainly volunteer to help. I just don't have the skills yet :P

Anxiously but patiently waiting!

Decado 01-11-2006 05:58 PM

Tyler i never said it was. I said the sale of installation of it was legal. And i said that the distribution of it from certain countries is legal, in the sense that it isnt challengable (i.e nothing can be done about it)


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