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TheSupportForum 11-08-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kartheekb (Post 2379422)
thank you... worked. ;)

np :)

vBBurger 11-08-2012 05:49 PM

Can someone address my question?

With Email Activation on, users are being pulled immediately into the newbie user group upon registration. The usergroup that allows posting, with restrictions. Why is it doing this? They should be left in the "Users Awaiting Email Activation" group until they activate by email. Because of this bug, spam bots are able to register and post without activating their email account. This nullifies the entire purpose of Email Activation. They should only be moved into the new users group after they activate.

Why? How to fix?
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I tried to post a question to the maker of GlowHost Spam O Matic on their support forums. He failed to answer any of my questions and then deleted all my posts. Very strange, and inappropriate behavior honestly. I guess their SpamOMatic support forum is not for support with SpamOMatic

GlowHost.com 11-08-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBBurger (Post 2379460)

With Email Activation on, users are being pulled immediately into the newbie user group upon registration. The usergroup that allows posting, with restrictions. Why is it doing this?

Because it was designed that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBBurger (Post 2379460)

They should be left in the "Users Awaiting Email Activation" group until they activate by email. Because of this bug, spam bots are able to register and post without activating their email account. This nullifies the entire purpose of Email Activation. They should only be moved into the new users group after they activate.

Do you think spam bots cant click activation links if they can fill out a form?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBBurger (Post 2379460)

I tried to post a question to the maker of GlowHost Spam O Matic on their support forums. He failed to answer any of my questions and then deleted all my posts. Very strange, and inappropriate behavior honestly. I guess their SpamOMatic support forum is not for support with SpamOMatic

You are right, this is the place to seek support.

Your choices are to either use the newbies group after registration or use the users awaiting validation group after registration.

Fivestones 11-08-2012 07:08 PM

works great ty

M.C. 11-08-2012 08:19 PM

Want to thank you for great addon first.

Have question about moderated posts/threads (may be been asked here). In statistic there is:

Spam-O-Matic Statistics

X Spammers Denied Registration

X Spammy Posts Automatically Moderated

But where they located that "moderated posts"? I don't see them....

May be you can add in options that put all moderated threads/posts into some special "Trash-bin" forum and we can put forumID for it?

WBRs

P.S. sorry my english not well

ForceHSS 11-09-2012 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.C. (Post 2379490)
Want to thank you for great addon first.

Have question about moderated posts/threads (may be been asked here). In statistic there is:

Spam-O-Matic Statistics

X Spammers Denied Registration

X Spammy Posts Automatically Moderated



But where they located that "moderated posts"? I don't see them....

May be you can add in options that put all moderated threads/posts into some special "Trash-bin" forum and we can put forumID for it?

WBRs

P.S. sorry my english not well

either go to your settings in your own profile or look in the admincp/Moderation

naveeid 11-09-2012 10:39 AM

this mod is wonderful and has helped me a lot to control the spam

tuRiver 11-09-2012 11:30 AM

Is it possible to control usergroup permissons? Who can ban or delete user?

vBBurger 11-09-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2379464)
Because it was designed that way.

Why would you *reduce* the built in security of vBulletin when you could have simply detected when someone Activates before moving them to the Newbies group? Simple solution. But instead you're telling me someone intentionally coded SpamOMatic to cripple the Email Activation feature of vBulletin? Why would you do that? SpamOMatic is supposed to increase security. Not break it.

Quote:

Do you think spam bots cant click activation links if they can fill out a form?
No. Most of them DONT click activation links. Do you know why? Because theyd have to create thousands of email accounts just to do that.

We tried using just SpamOMatic alone. It didn't work. You place new users into a Newbies group ... but how does that stop them from posting? We ended up with hundreds of Spam BOT "Moderated Posts" that had to manually be deleted. One of my Moderators quit that day because he was overhwhelmed with the failure of your plug in to stop Spam.

So I took matters into my own hands and re-enabled Email Activation. Guess what? It all stopped. But a handful are now posting freely because your tool BREAKS the Email Activation function in vBulletin. Apparently the "You must activate" page deters a large percent of them because they can't activate by email like you assume. The smarter ones try posting anyways, and do so just fine because your tool doesn't stop them.

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Your choices are to either use the newbies group after registration or use the users awaiting validation group after registration.
There is absolutely no reason why this has to be an either-or situation. All you have to do is fix the problem, and SpamOMatic can be used in conjunction with Email Activation. Detect Email Activation before putting them into Newbies group. Simple. Basic code change. Is there someone a little more willing to listen that I can report this bug to?

VBB

GlowHost.com 11-09-2012 10:15 PM

I guess if you don't like it, simply remove the program, problem solved.

You certainly won't get any help with an attitude like that.


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