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sticky 10-11-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2372298)
Because the image resizer doesn't work with AJAX-added images, it's a design flaw in your image resizer :)

So would you suggest a solution?

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It does, provided the video embed is within the cut-off limit (both the start and end tag).
So how do I increase this cutoff limit?

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Then change the settings for the Content Types :)

Would you prefer it if it stretched your page? :p
This happens when a string that's not broken up by a space is posted.

It uses the same link colour style as the rest of vBulletin, I'm not sure if it's a stylevar or a CSS class. Probably a stylevar.
Shouldn't you know which stylevar? Or if it even is a stylevar? All I know is the Activity Stream looks perfecta and this doesn't so I can't sit around guessing what I need to change you should know.

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You could do that either via the CSS or via the templates. This is a customisation that we're unable to assist with, however. If you're not comfortable editing CSS or templates, please contact your skin developer for assistance.
You can't assist on how to change the font? Perhaps with some better coding you guys could have stylevars to make this simple? Not being able to change the font seems like a design flaw but hopefully it's something you can improve in future releases.

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Posts complaining about the lack of support in a free mod when you're posting on the unofficial modification support channel (we don't have the same level of alerts / issue tracking available on vBulletin.org as we do on our own website, which is why we give priority to posts on our forums) is a sure-fire way of annoying the coder ;)

It's generally considered quite rude :)
So I need to buy a mod that is not working as I expect to begin with to get support? I'd like to see how your support is first before I invest any money. Hence the point of lite products right? Calling me rude when I'm considering buying SEVERAL of your products is bad for business as you may have just cost yourself several sales, at least several from me alone. This is a sure-fire way to annoy a potential customer.

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BBCode cannot parse when the cut-off limit has been reached, for obvious reasons. If the closing quote tag does not exist in the trimmed content, then it cannot parse it.
So how do I increase the cut off limit? I want all the BB code to parse so it doesn't look bad like it does.

DragonByte Tech 10-11-2012 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sticky (Post 2372380)
So would you suggest a solution?

Examine alternative image resizer solutions that are written to support AJAX-loaded images, or commission one to be created :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sticky (Post 2372380)
So how do I increase this cutoff limit?

As I said, the Content Type settings for this mod.

AdminCP -> DBTech - Live Feed -> Manage Content Types -> Edit.


Quote:

Originally Posted by sticky (Post 2372380)
Shouldn't you know which stylevar? Or if it even is a stylevar?

Unfortunately it's not feasible for me to be familiar with every possible style out there :(

If your skin has customised the sidebar_content_link_color / sidebar_content_link_hover_color stylevar and yet it still doesn't work, then there is something else up with your skin and I am as in the dark as you are. I have not only no idea who developed your skin, what it's called, what customisations it applied...

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Originally Posted by sticky (Post 2372380)
You can't assist on how to change the font?

For the simple reason that if we were open to providing customisations of our products, that's literally all we'd be doing.

All we can really do is point people in the direction of where to go, and adequately explain why we can't assist with the customisations. I understand that I've failed at both of those tasks, and for that I apologise.

The templates to edit are dbtech_livewall_block_entry and dbtech_livewall_block_entries to boost the font sizes used in this mod.


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Originally Posted by sticky (Post 2372380)
So I need to buy a mod that is not working as I expect to begin with to get support?

Not at all. Under no circumstances does posting Lite support requests in our Lite support forums require any form of purchase, furthermore support is not included in the Pro licence fee - the licence fee is exclusively a measure of the time it took to create the modification.

While I obviously can't speak for the future, I very strongly doubt you will ever see anyone from DBTech asking you to pay for support - unless the tradition of paying for the development time of software goes away globally at any rate, which it shows no signs of doing :)

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Originally Posted by sticky (Post 2372380)
I'd like to see how your support is first before I invest any money. Hence the point of lite products right?

An argument could be made for that, certainly. Personally, I put out Lite products to give people an idea of the product itself, not my support.
I suppose everyone has their individual reasons for using a Lite product first while testing for the Pro version.

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Originally Posted by sticky (Post 2372380)
I want all the BB code to parse so it doesn't look bad like it does.

That's impossible to ensure unless you display the full post on your wall.

If a person posts a post that is 300 characters long, the first 3 characters is [B] and the last 4 are [/B], then it will display correctly for a cutoff limit of 300.

However, if they post a post that is 350 characters long, with the same configuration, the first [B] will still remain unparsed.

The only thing I might be able to do is clean up unparsed BBCode tags, but would that not simply shift the issue onto "the post is not formatted correctly"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sticky (Post 2372380)
Calling me rude when I'm considering buying SEVERAL of your products is bad for business as you may have just cost yourself several sales, at least several from me alone. This is a sure-fire way to annoy a potential customer.

If you chose to take offence from it then I do apologise, it was not intended as a personal attack. It was merely a notification that because you are posting on vBulletin.org and not DragonByte-Tech.com, where our ability to quickly provide support is severely diminished, you should not complain about having to wait 24 hours for support.

If you could see it from my PoV, you'd see that it's quite annoying to me when that happens. I chose to notify you that your behaviour was considered rude to me rather than directly insult you or ignore you - I'm sure there have been times where you've wanted to lash out at someone for making your blood boil too but have managed to restrain yourself :)

To give you a better idea of why we prefer people posting on DBTech, look at our forum home page: http://www.dragonbyte-tech.com/forum.php
I do believe we have it set up so guests can see the Top X Stats blocks.
I use those, plus our Forum Tabs with AJAX reloading that I've configured to only show my mod forums (for when I've been away or read threads have been bumped off the Top X Stats), plus our vBShout (which I don't believe guests can see) to ensure that I'm always up to date on threads that have already been posted and have simply been replied to.

I normally check those forums once every couple hours, more often than not several times every hour.

In addition to all of that, I receive instant email notifications whenever someone posts a thread, which has the thread title as well as the issue type.
As an example, I might receive an email saying "sticky has posted a new Bug: Installed vBShout, my forum is now down with errors
In forum: vBShout Lite Support"

I'll go "crap, this sounds serious. I better click it right away!" and the thread will usually be answered instantly - so long as I'm at the computer and working.

Not only that, but if someone posts a Feature Request, not only is it logged in our system until the end of time so it never gets lost in the pages, but I know I don't have to answer that OMGNOW like I would my previous example.

Compare that to vBulletin.org, which requires me to answer "less serious" posts before I even receive a notification that says you have replied to the vBShout vB4 thread saying your site is now down with errors.


Hopefully this gives you a better idea of why we prefer people posting on our own forums rather than vBulletin.org :)


Fillip

qpurser 10-11-2012 10:48 PM

Fillip has been so busy with Sticky he probably overlooked my posting #203 :)

sticky 10-11-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2372391)
Examine alternative image resizer solutions that are written to support AJAX-loaded images, or commission one to be created :)

As I said, the Content Type settings for this mod.

AdminCP -> DBTech - Live Feed -> Manage Content Types -> Edit.


Unfortunately it's not feasible for me to be familiar with every possible style out there :(

If your skin has customised the sidebar_content_link_color / sidebar_content_link_hover_color stylevar and yet it still doesn't work, then there is something else up with your skin and I am as in the dark as you are. I have not only no idea who developed your skin, what it's called, what customisations it applied...

For the simple reason that if we were open to providing customisations of our products, that's literally all we'd be doing.

All we can really do is point people in the direction of where to go, and adequately explain why we can't assist with the customisations. I understand that I've failed at both of those tasks, and for that I apologise.

The templates to edit are dbtech_livewall_block_entry and dbtech_livewall_block_entries to boost the font sizes used in this mod.


Not at all. Under no circumstances does posting Lite support requests in our Lite support forums require any form of purchase, furthermore support is not included in the Pro licence fee - the licence fee is exclusively a measure of the time it took to create the modification.

While I obviously can't speak for the future, I very strongly doubt you will ever see anyone from DBTech asking you to pay for support - unless the tradition of paying for the development time of software goes away globally at any rate, which it shows no signs of doing :)

An argument could be made for that, certainly. Personally, I put out Lite products to give people an idea of the product itself, not my support.
I suppose everyone has their individual reasons for using a Lite product first while testing for the Pro version.

That's impossible to ensure unless you display the full post on your wall.

If a person posts a post that is 300 characters long, the first 3 characters is [B] and the last 4 are [/B], then it will display correctly for a cutoff limit of 300.

However, if they post a post that is 350 characters long, with the same configuration, the first [B] will still remain unparsed.

The only thing I might be able to do is clean up unparsed BBCode tags, but would that not simply shift the issue onto "the post is not formatted correctly"?

If you chose to take offence from it then I do apologise, it was not intended as a personal attack. It was merely a notification that because you are posting on vBulletin.org and not DragonByte-Tech.com, where our ability to quickly provide support is severely diminished, you should not complain about having to wait 24 hours for support.

If you could see it from my PoV, you'd see that it's quite annoying to me when that happens. I chose to notify you that your behaviour was considered rude to me rather than directly insult you or ignore you - I'm sure there have been times where you've wanted to lash out at someone for making your blood boil too but have managed to restrain yourself :)

To give you a better idea of why we prefer people posting on DBTech, look at our forum home page: http://www.dragonbyte-tech.com/forum.php
I do believe we have it set up so guests can see the Top X Stats blocks.
I use those, plus our Forum Tabs with AJAX reloading that I've configured to only show my mod forums (for when I've been away or read threads have been bumped off the Top X Stats), plus our vBShout (which I don't believe guests can see) to ensure that I'm always up to date on threads that have already been posted and have simply been replied to.

I normally check those forums once every couple hours, more often than not several times every hour.

In addition to all of that, I receive instant email notifications whenever someone posts a thread, which has the thread title as well as the issue type.
As an example, I might receive an email saying "sticky has posted a new Bug: Installed vBShout, my forum is now down with errors
In forum: vBShout Lite Support"

I'll go "crap, this sounds serious. I better click it right away!" and the thread will usually be answered instantly - so long as I'm at the computer and working.

Not only that, but if someone posts a Feature Request, not only is it logged in our system until the end of time so it never gets lost in the pages, but I know I don't have to answer that OMGNOW like I would my previous example.

Compare that to vBulletin.org, which requires me to answer "less serious" posts before I even receive a notification that says you have replied to the vBShout vB4 thread saying your site is now down with errors.


Hopefully this gives you a better idea of why we prefer people posting on our own forums rather than vBulletin.org :)


Fillip

Ok I'm just going to generally respond here.

The key seems to me to be the manage content types setting. Thank you, I see what you mean here.

I made the length pretty long so basically it's like getting a stream of all posts in full which is great.

Now, if you want support requests on your forum no problem. I posted at VB.org since this is where I found out about your product and you have provided support in this thread. Some coders say support is only on their forum but you guys haven't done that hence my posting here. If you prefer it there fine, I understand.

Now what I don't understand is why do images get resized in the sidebar but not on the full feed? I'll see what I can do about having an image resizer made that works with AJAX I guess as this is important.

Now I would like to buy this product but there are a couple hurdles. First, the full comment posting does not actually post to the thread as a new reply but as a separate comment on a reply. I would much prefer if I could just use the feed and respond to everyone in threads directly from the feed never having to leave it. You could post everywhere from a single page, brilliant.

Also, I was hoping the status updates would go in a status update thread. That way the forum would have sort of a big thread everyone can quickly post in. This would increase forum activity and post count tremendously.

Would you guys consider implementing these changes?

sticky 10-12-2012 02:45 AM

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Also, having this problem where if a post comes in live instead of using ' ' marks it displays the whole quote box. If I refresh it's fine:

sticky 10-12-2012 03:16 AM

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Another issue, seems to have trouble with url's in quotes:

DragonByte Tech 10-13-2012 01:04 PM

As a note to anyone else, this has been handled over @ our forums :)


Fillip

TopShelfGamer 10-13-2012 02:43 PM

fixed

DragonByte Tech 10-13-2012 02:51 PM

Add
PHP Code:

define('DISABLE_HOOKS'true); 

directly beneath <?php in your config.php file.


Fillip

TopShelfGamer 10-13-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2372729)
Add
PHP Code:

define('DISABLE_HOOKS'true); 

directly beneath <?php in your config.php file.


Fillip

it was actually an problem with how i saved my config.php file.


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