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noppid 11-28-2005 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan
1) Do you have any idea how much work is involved in releasing a lite version?

2)Even with a highly revised and structurised coding style, picking out the advanced features (not like just adding "if (!is_paid())") takes time that very well could be spent on developing new features, fixing bugs or just improve the coding.

3)Do you think Jelsoft stopped releasing vB Lite because they felt like being nasty towards the people wanting an extended preview? I wasn't here for when this change happened but I have enough common sense to figure out that this was not the case. They felt their developers time could be spent on the main product.
Why thank you for that assessment :)

4)Unless you are referring to actual text on paid sites, I can't say Ive ever encountered anyone promising unlimited support. That's like saying they will live forever and always develop that script, which obviously is impossible. So yeah, if such a promise exists anywhere then I concur with Marco.
That's why we are discussing a directory of off-sites, so vBulletin.org staff could simply remove a site should the coder go MIA or decide to no longer support his hack. vB.org would not handle money transactions or be in any other way legally involved.

5)Sorry to hear that mate, Ive been short-sticked as a coder once too so I know how ya feel.

1) Are you serious?

2) I'm sorry you coundn't pull it off.

3) I have no idea nor care about vB Lite. I'm working with what is available now and adjust with the changes as necessary. It's called coding.

4) Forever? LOL, just make a product that works and the most support your users will need is an occasional installation question due to being new to vBulletin.

5) Sorry to hear that mate.

Apathetic posts like this are the only thing keeping this thread alive. It's not Jelsofts job to prop us up. It's our job to perform the skills we claim to have and adjust our game as necessasry to feed ourselves.

The Geek 11-28-2005 04:14 PM

Actually noppid, I have to agree with him on the first 3 points. I can only assume that one major factor in doing away with a LITE version of vB was that it is a nightmare controlling code changes in various projects.

I am not saying that it can not be done - however that would be dependant on the project and regardless - it is time that is often better spent working on new features or new projects.

Boofo 11-28-2005 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Geek
Actually noppid, I have to agree with him on the first 3 points. I can only assume that one major factor in doing away with a LITE version of vB was that it is a nightmare controlling code changes in various projects.

I am not saying that it can not be done - however that would be dependant on the project and regardless - it is time that is often better spent working on new features or new projects.

If you're not willing to compromise, how can you expect for anything to happen?

noppid 11-28-2005 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Geek
Actually noppid, I have to agree with him on the first 3 points. I can only assume that one major factor in doing away with a LITE version of vB was that it is a nightmare controlling code changes in various projects.

I am not saying that it can not be done - however that would be dependant on the project and regardless - it is time that is often better spent working on new features or new projects.


Why are we even talking about an extinct project?

We're talking about vBulletin hacks and there being a lite free version of those hacks at vBulletin.org if you want to play here in the "free" world for promotional purposes of the paid version.

Currently that method works well. I'm not saying it's perfect, we all have our opinions but none of them matter anyway.

As far as managing a lite version, yep, it's work. But nothing ventured, nothing gained. There's a bigger pie out there though my friend. ;)

utw-Mephisto 11-28-2005 04:53 PM

here are my $0.02 :

Some people just run sites as hobby and other people as serious projects.

My site is in between. It started as hobby but it is getting serious next year. So some functions I need / want are only available as hacks / plugins .

I THINK the reason he is asking the first place : PAID hacks MUST be working / bug free etc.

So some people (like me) wouldn't have any problems to pay a few bucks for a script since I can be sure it is working straight away .. at least in most of the cases ..

Use as example vbulletin and phpbb or wbb .... I rather pay $160 but I am almost assured that the script is working ... don't even get me started with all the flaws phpbb has.

Some people writing scripts and don't support them (I can give you at least 20 examples from vb.org) because "They are working for me" ...

So IMHO - it is a nice idea ... See he German sister site of vborg ... they have also a paid section (public joinable usergroup to see that forum) - great stuff - honestly ..

amykhar 11-28-2005 05:06 PM

Mephisto has one thing very right. This is not the ideal place for business or professional sites to get modifications because this is a hobby site. But, because Jelsoft has made it into a modification download site instead of a coding community, it needs to transition somewhat to present people with professional solutions. I don't think forums for paid stuff is the answer. I don't think advertising in sig lines is the answer. I think doing things the way TAZ does with banner ads is the way it should be done. Heck, run google adsense banners and let people buy adwords targetted at stuff that would be here, if nothing else.

Amy

MJM 11-28-2005 05:20 PM

How many paid/commercial vB add-ons are there currently?

- Is there anywhere I can see a list?

- Is it permissible for someone to post a list at this site?

Boofo 11-28-2005 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJM
How many paid/commercial vB add-ons are there currently?

- Is there anywhere I can see a list?

- Is it permissible for someone to post a list at this site?

A few. No and No.

Blam Forumz 11-28-2005 06:10 PM

Sure, why not.

Robert Basil 11-28-2005 06:36 PM

I am one of the few people here who are lucky enough run a VB based website for my full time job.

I would love to see a paid hacks section so I do not have to visit a bunch of different forums for all of the free and paid hacks I have installed.


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