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GarethBurrows 01-15-2013 05:52 AM

I have just installed RBS and whilst I can set up banners, view them and link to the external site, I have a couple of issues which may be down to my lack of understanding of the configuration (Page screenshots are here (clip1, clip2, clip3):

1. The clicks counter does not seem to be working. Impressions appears to count correctly but clicks remain zero even though I have been clicking the ad to get to the link.

This is the code in the Text box "<a href="http://www.divingincidents.com" target="_blank"> <img src="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2216291/TDF_Test_Images/disms-logo-60px-high_image2_number.png"></a>"

I would like to know how the mod chooses which ad to show as I have 3 ads in the test environment I have set up and they don't appear to cycle through, but appear to be random)

2. When I click on the Banner Stats link at the top of the banner config file, I get the following displayed

Quote:

Warning: require(C:\xampp\htdocs\testdev7\rbs_stats.php): failed to open stream: Permission denied in C:\xampp\htdocs\vbseo.php on line 1398

Fatal error: require(): Failed opening required 'C:\xampp\htdocs\testdev7/rbs_stats.php' (include_path='.;C:\xampp\php\PEAR') in C:\xampp\htdocs\vbseo.php on line 1398
which isn't a good thing!

VBSEO is not installed in the test environment. Does it need to be?

Any help would be appreciated as I hope to have the system live at the end of the month for advertisers.

Many thanks

Gareth

y2ksw 01-15-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GarethBurrows (Post 2396975)
I have just installed RBS and whilst I can set up banners, view them and link to the external site, I have a couple of issues which may be down to my lack of understanding of the configuration (Page screenshots are here (clip1, clip2, clip3):

1. The clicks counter does not seem to be working. Impressions appears to count correctly but clicks remain zero even though I have been clicking the ad to get to the link.

This is the code in the Text box "<a href="http://www.divingincidents.com" target="_blank"> <img src="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2216291/TDF_Test_Images/disms-logo-60px-high_image2_number.png"></a>"

I would like to know how the mod chooses which ad to show as I have 3 ads in the test environment I have set up and they don't appear to cycle through, but appear to be random)

2. When I click on the Banner Stats link at the top of the banner config file, I get the following displayed



which isn't a good thing!

VBSEO is not installed in the test environment. Does it need to be?

Any help would be appreciated as I hope to have the system live at the end of the month for advertisers.

Many thanks

Gareth

1.a. The click counter does work only with images, or specifically crafted scripts. How click tracking works, you may see best by setting up an image banner and view your HTML source code.
1.b. Banners are shown randomly, but if you have more than one banner for the same location, and more than one of the same location on a single page, the algorithm will never show two of the same banners on that page.

2.a. Please make sure you have your .htaccess file setup correctly, too. This message clearly shows you are attempting to route a script through vbseo.php instead of allowing direct calls. On the other hand, you may route this script through vbseo, but must then enable vbseo. It is not true you haven't vbseo installed; you have and it is disabled or not perfectly uninstalled :)

2.b. If you use vbseo, make sure you read the manual about vbseo, too ;)

y2ksw 01-15-2013 10:18 AM

PS: In order to setup an image banner, don't use the Text box, but the Image and URL fields ;)

licensinglinks 01-18-2013 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2ksw (Post 2395545)
There is no need to fix it. The Google AdSense counts are at most approximate, and will not consider some devices. Please make sure you understand what Google AdSense does and what not. It does not do quite a lot :)

RBS counts also half viewed pages where people are in too much hurry to wait and counts also all visits from spiders which eventually show banners. Google does exclude its own visits. So if your site is visited from more spiders than real visitors, the counts may seem exaggerated, but in fact, they are precise as a swiss clock.

Is there any way I can stop it counting spiders/bots? If I sell 10,000 impressions to a customer it's totally unfair if 9,000 are displayed to bots. :(

Videx 01-19-2013 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by licensinglinks (Post 2397775)
Is there any way I can stop it counting spiders/bots? If I sell 10,000 impressions to a customer it's totally unfair if 9,000 are displayed to bots. :(

If any of your advertisers are dumb enough to count impressions - or even clicks - then they deserve what they get. Seriously, that's no way to gauge the effectiveness of an ad campaign these days.

licensinglinks 01-19-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Videx (Post 2397803)
If any of your advertisers are dumb enough to count impressions - or even clicks - then they deserve what they get. Seriously, that's no way to gauge the effectiveness of an ad campaign these days.

In that case, how is anyone supposed to put a price on something that can't be measured accurately?

licensinglinks 01-19-2013 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Videx (Post 2397803)
If any of your advertisers are dumb enough to count impressions - or even clicks - then they deserve what they get. Seriously, that's no way to gauge the effectiveness of an ad campaign these days.

What's your method of allowing customers to measure their ad campaigns?

y2ksw 01-19-2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by licensinglinks (Post 2397775)
Is there any way I can stop it counting spiders/bots? If I sell 10,000 impressions to a customer it's totally unfair if 9,000 are displayed to bots. :(

There is no way to tell which connection is a bot and who not, and in any way, it would not be in the scope of this product. If you need to inform your customers, you will have to filter your logs (not even forum visitors) and elaborate a prospect, which allows you then to tell about the real numbers.

Today, you would count more on clicks than impressions, and exclude direct accesses (which are counted in banner stats). This will give you a very reliable insight into the banner activity.

To make it even more efficient, you would pass an affiliate code to your customer, who would then count the number of visitors who have actually logged into or browsed their site, which is then the most precise information one can get, and the banner stats are then merely a check for you in order to get paid ;)

y2ksw 01-19-2013 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by licensinglinks (Post 2397868)
In that case, how is anyone supposed to put a price on something that can't be measured accurately?

True clicks are a good measure. A better solution are affiliation codes, where the customer will pay you when a specific event happens at their site (login, contacts, site navigation etc).

Videx 01-19-2013 03:04 PM

Right, the sponsor would have to check their own logs to see how much traffic came from you. In our case the ads are local, so one person saying "I heard about you on the website" is worth a million clicks. I also encourage them to offer discounts for mentioning us. Or coupons.

Our main marketing tool is the Unique Visitor count. This may include a few bots, but it gives a figure representing the general activity of the site.

Banners are fairly useless these days (though still necessary) and modern sponsors know it . Even those without ad blockers tend to just ignore them. So we do our best to try to start discussions and write articles about sponsors. Not always easy to do on an open discussion board where people will not hesitate to tell everyone exactly what they thought about things. :)


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