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futureal 08-25-2002 12:33 AM

John: I will contact you.

Martin64: I believe it is a bug in the Flash file for Tetris, *not* in John's hack. The hack just grabs a value that is returned from the game, and the game does not appear to be returning that value when somebody "beats" it.

John 08-25-2002 01:35 AM

Ok, here's a rough cut. I know none of the stuff on the front page makes sense, it's all space filler stuff.

Bear in mind this was installed on a fresh board, the colours are horrible.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

The mini table at the bottom of the page randomly displays the high scores for one of the games, I had a go at making it display all of the dynamically - unfortunately the while loop within a loop went horribly wrong.

I'm going to work on it (or get someone else to work on it) and release it as an add-on later on.

John 08-25-2002 01:37 AM

oh - the crown next to your personal best only appears when you're the current high scorer. On mouse over, it says "{gamename} Champion!" :)

All text on the page (such as intros and descriptions) can be changed in the admin panel.

Edit: This page is $bburl/arcade.php (no actions)

N9ne 08-25-2002 01:48 AM

Very cool :cool:

When you release this addon, will there be instructions for those who have the tetris king + tetris + leaderboard hack already installed?

Ninth Dimension 08-25-2002 02:17 AM

I'm sorry to say this, but I think you will find that John is not going to be making a public release of the arcade hack - he is just showing off :)

Although I will have to admit that it's looking damn sexy :)

Goldknight 08-25-2002 02:36 AM

Yean and John will cost us a broke blender or used car (no engine) at least to get our hands on it. Good deal eh? ;)

Also I agree with Daniel or Ninth about "hot look" Good job, John.

Odil 08-25-2002 02:49 AM

I read somewhere that with a donation we can get this hack you are working on? I am willing to donate if you are doing this...please let me know.

Odil

Quote:

Originally posted by john.eovie
Ok, here's a rough cut. I know none of the stuff on the front page makes sense, it's all space filler stuff.

Bear in mind this was installed on a fresh board, the colours are horrible.
http://www.eovie.co.uk/pics/18.gif

The mini table at the bottom of the page randomly displays the high scores for one of the games, I had a go at making it display all of the dynamically - unfortunately the while loop within a loop went horribly wrong.

I'm going to work on it (or get someone else to work on it) and release it as an add-on later on.


futureal 08-25-2002 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by john.eovie
The mini table at the bottom of the page randomly displays the high scores for one of the games, I had a go at making it display all of the dynamically - unfortunately the while loop within a loop went horribly wrong.

I'm going to work on it (or get someone else to work on it) and release it as an add-on later on.

Let me know what is wrong with it and I can take a look at it if you'd like.

kira 08-25-2002 05:32 AM

Hi, great hack!

I'm having the same problem as Martin, re: a player beating the high score in Tetris but not having his score recorded.

Quote:

Futureal writes: I believe it is a bug in the Flash file for Tetris, *not* in John's hack. The hack just grabs a value that is returned from the game, and the game does not appear to be returning that value when somebody "beats" it.
Okaaay, but I'm not understanding why players were able to beat the high score before, but not now. Is there something I can do, do you think? (FYI, I'm using the 2.5 file.)

Souly 08-25-2002 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kypdurron
your last english with pause was actually english without pause
NOPE :D I have test it and its OK!

Quote:

Originally posted by Castel



Excellent, thanks for including the fla files. Nice job figuring out how to add and contruct levels. I'm a total flash newbie as well but now that I have the fla files I see how it's done and I will add my own custom levels.
BTW the english with pause has a glitch in lvl 13 (there are no blocks displayed at the beginning of the the lvl, looking at the code it think the problem is:

PHP Code:

     liv13[maxrig-2][12]=random(7)+100+1;
     
liv13[maxrig-7][12]=random(7)+100+1

The maximum value allowed for where you have [12] is [9] I believe.

OhOH. thx4it. I will change it to.....
PHP Code:

     liv13[maxrig-12][2]=random(7)+100+1;
     
liv13[maxrig-12][7]=random(7)+100+1

Quote:

Originally posted by Ron ? DCS
"After I complete level 10...the game takes me back to level 1, and it won't give me a chance to enter my name on the scoreboard.

Anyone else having the same problems?"

I

OK. It is possible, that you use my first fla File version?! My second version fixed it.

------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
In the next version I:

* will fix all known bugs
- 2 code errors

* new Parameters for Lvl 11-16
- the amount of lines is to high now

* and a new Lvl16
-in my older versions this level is a special board Level, i included some part of my boardname in it, i will change it to a big vB!

In the Moment i am very busy in my reallife, i think i will work on the flash file today in the evening (now it is 11:24 am here)

John 08-25-2002 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ninth Dimension
I'm sorry to say this, but I think you will find that John is not going to be making a public release of the arcade hack - he is just showing off :)

Although I will have to admit that it's looking damn sexy :)

Well, I'm making a semi-public release ;)

Ok, sorted out the loops - now mini leaderboards for all of the games are displayed at the bottom :)

http://www.eovie.co.uk/pics/19.gif

inetd 08-25-2002 11:42 AM

How to install Space invaders, Snnake and Pacman?

John 08-25-2002 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by inetd
How to install Space invaders, Snnake and Pacman?
Read the thread - all 50,000 pages of it! ;)

They come as part of my arcade hack.

Ninth Dimension 08-25-2002 11:49 AM

I'm guessing here, but does each game has it's own leaderboard as well as the mini leader board?

John 08-25-2002 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ninth Dimension
I'm guessing here, but does each game has it's own leaderboard as well as the mini leader board?
uh huh

inetd 08-25-2002 11:57 AM

john, when you release arcade hack? :)

John 08-25-2002 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by inetd
john, when you release arcade hack? :)
I'm not publicly releasing it - only to a select group of people (i.e. friends and people who have donated to me)

Lanigironu 08-25-2002 01:09 PM

BOOO!

John 08-25-2002 01:18 PM

<insert MSN ashamed smiley here>

Lanigironu 08-25-2002 01:33 PM

So you're not gonna release it at all? Or did you mean right now, at the stage it's at?

It would kinda suck if you're not going to be releasing it to the public, you really built up people's interest.

John 08-25-2002 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lanigironu
So you're not gonna release it at all? Or did you mean right now, at the stage it's at?

It would kinda suck if you're not going to be releasing it to the public, you really built up people's interest.

Take a look at this thread - 55 pages of non stop tech support. If I released the arcade hack to the public, I wouldn't have any time to sleep. I just don't have the time.

But if I exchange the hack for donations it means that I'll have more time for tech support, and I'll be able to get rid of this darn leased vB licence. I've spend the last 4 days solid working on this, it'd be nice to get something back. :(

I also need a new digi cam badly (for my work), so I'm trying to raise the funds for that as well.

Lanigironu 08-25-2002 02:14 PM

So you are basically selling the hack? If I am not mistaken, that's a breach of the license agreement.

Either way, you don't HAVE to provide tech support. You can say that the hack is "as is" and you will not help anybbody if they have a problem.

Ninth Dimension 08-25-2002 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lanigironu
So you are basically selling the hack? If I am not mistaken, that's a breach of the license agreement.
There is nothing wrong with selling hacks for vB. The fact that it uses the vB engine has nothing to do with it, it's like any script you purchase, you are purching the time they have spent developing it.

Is the free tetris hack not good enough? (some people want everything)

John 08-25-2002 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lanigironu
So you are basically selling the hack? If I am not mistaken, that's a breach of the license agreement.

Either way, you don't HAVE to provide tech support. You can say that the hack is "as is" and you will not help anybbody if they have a problem.

Ok, I'm not selling it - I'm just giving it to friends and people who have supported me. (I don't believe it is in breach of anything, all of the code is my own.)

There seem to be enough people out there who want to stop me from releasing this at all, should I bother?!

Ninth Dimension 08-25-2002 02:30 PM

I've just read the licence and it says the following:

"Registered users may modify the vBulletin code for their personal use (at their own risk), but any altered code must not be redistributed or resold in any form."

From this I'd like to point out that, as with the flash files that the arcade hack uses, john is not selling any modified code, he is insted selling a "seperate" file that uses the vB engine.

Regarding any files that need to be modified, all he is doing is providing the instructions on what needs to be changed, not any modified files.

John 08-25-2002 02:32 PM

That's right, the main part of the arcade hack is arcade.php, existing code modifications are purely optional.

Ninth Dimension 08-25-2002 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by john.eovie
There seem to be enough people out there who want to stop me from releasing this at all, should I bother?!
It's not that they don't want you to release it, it's that they want you to give it away for free.

Some hack authors do this (as john did with the tetris hack) so why can't he do what he is doing with the arcade hack?

Anyway, in my opinion, the arcade hack is a very special add-on, something that can turn a dead forum into an active one - and beyond, matching services provided by HUGE players like MSN. - if everyone had it then it would not be special :D

Kars10 08-25-2002 02:35 PM

@ Lanigironu, if John plans that way please accept this.
We know about the Arcade-Donation since the last 50 posts and we will donate for it.
Its a extreme work and i thank such peoples like John for sharing with us.
If he don?t opened this thread and gave us his tetris-leaderboard etc. we dont even know about such great additions.
Thanx John! ;)

John 08-25-2002 02:37 PM

Thanks everyone :)

Lanigironu 08-25-2002 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ninth Dimension
I've just read the licence and it says the following:

"Registered users may modify the vBulletin code for their personal use (at their own risk), but any altered code must not be redistributed or resold in any form."

From this I'd like to point out that, as with the flash files that the arcade hack uses, john is not selling any modified code, he is insted selling a "seperate" file that uses the vB engine.

Regarding any files that need to be modified, all he is doing is providing the instructions on what needs to be changed, not any modified files.

Ok, fine, as I said, I wasn't sure about it.

But either way, this is a very nasty thing that you did, building up people's hopes up so you can smack them with a price.

Minifreunde: That's bull++++. Anybody could've done it, and if John didn't, somebody else would have eventually. It's not like he saved us from the appocalypse.

John 08-25-2002 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lanigironu

But either way, this is a very nasty thing that you did, building up people's hopes up so you can smack them with a price.

I HAVE STATED FROM THE START THAT THE ARCADE HACK IS NOT FOR PUBLIC RELEASE. (Or at least it won't be now) Next time, READ THE THREAD. Perhaps then you won't be so misguided.

I've been posting screenshots because a lot of people are following the progress of the hack, and are interesting in how it's going. I'm not trying to smack anyone with a price at the end of it.

It's seemingly true that no matter how much time and effort I've spent on the original Tetris hack and tech support, some people are NEVER happy.

Ninth Dimension 08-25-2002 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lanigironu
Anybody could've done it, and if John didn't, somebody else would have eventually. It's not like he saved us from the appocalypse.
Here's a new game to play "Challenge Lanigironu" - it's just like challenge annica (for anyone in the UK) only Lanigironu will be playing insted.

OK, Lanigironu, you have got 4 days to build a fully working flash arcade hack for vB.

Ready, Set... GO!!!

Ron ? DCS 08-25-2002 02:53 PM

This is unbelievable...all of the hard work that John did, and some people STILL want this for free?

Where is that shaking head smilie that I built? https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2002/08/3.gif

Thank you for all of your hard work, John, I for one appreciate it, and plan to make a donation...(please see my e-mail to you). If people think programming and debugging this stuff constantly is easy, they are sadly mistaken...

Quote:

It's seemingly true that no matter how much time and effort I've spent on the original Tetris hack and tech support, some people are NEVER happy.
Ain't that the truth...two old adages come to mind:

(1) You can't please everyone.

(2) No good deed goes unpunished.

'Nuff said. https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2002/08/4.gif

BigJohnson 08-25-2002 02:54 PM

Wait I am a little lost on what is going on. We have to pay for what? And what is the problem. I think I am missing somehting as well. Can someone inform me please. Thank you.

Ninth Dimension 08-25-2002 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigJohnson
Wait I am a little lost on what is going on. We have to pay for what? And what is the problem. I think I am missing somehting as well. Can someone inform me please. Thank you.
It's very simple.

John has released a Tetris hack which can be downloaded for free from the first post in this thread.
John is also making an Arcade hack, but that is not for public release.

As for the rest, it's just people attacking john for no good reason.

John 08-25-2002 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigJohnson
Wait I am a little lost on what is going on. We have to pay for what? And what is the problem. I think I am missing somehting as well. Can someone inform me please. Thank you.
Basically, I'm nearly finished making what I call the "arcade hack" - like this tetris hack, but with more games and a better system. I never intended on releasing it to the public, and I don't have the time to release on vb.org. So, I'm releasing it to my friends and people who have supported me through donations.

Because a lot of people want it, I've been keeping us all up to date with progress via screenshots. Apparently this was wrong of me....

Lanigironu 08-25-2002 03:12 PM

I'm not attacking john. Maybe I just missed where he first announced the hack. I thought he didn't reveal that it was payable at first.

Either way, people at vbulletin.org expect free modifications for the software they paid for when they come here. In my opinion, this shouldn't be here.

John 08-25-2002 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lanigironu
I'm not attacking john. Maybe I just missed where he first announced the hack. I thought he didn't reveal that it was payable at first.

Either way, people at vbulletin.org expect free modifications for the software they paid for when they come here. In my opinion, this shouldn't be here.

Perhaps you should take this up with Amy.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...524#post288524

Ninth Dimension 08-25-2002 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by john.eovie
Perhaps you should take this up with Amy.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...524#post288524

sounds like a good idea to me.

Amy, we NEED you!!!! :D

John 08-25-2002 03:28 PM

http://www.mcforum.org/images/smilies/phone_call.gif

"Hello? Amy? Yeah, another one. 10 minutes? Thanks"

There. No excuse ;) :

Quote:

The whole hacks must be free mentality annoys me. If you want your board customized and don't want to pay for it a)Learn how to code and b) Figure the stuff out and do it yourself. Do NOT expect somebody else to spend THEIR time making your board better.

I no longer release hacks because idiots who aren't even qualified to run a website much less modify a complicated software package have taken most of the fun out of. I deeply love working with other developers to come up with new features, but it's not our job to listen to your whining and temper tantrums.

If mommy and daddy won't raise your allowance so that you can afford to pay developers to create modifications for you, then get a job or an education.

Amy


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