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TheWhite 10-26-2009 05:54 AM

It's a legit question, if google don't want its services to be used in this way and requests a stop then what?

anyway how much is the minimal donation to have the copyright removed?

imported_silkroad 10-26-2009 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWhite (Post 1906294)
It's a legit question, if google don't want its services to be used in this way and requests a stop then what?

No, it is not a legitimate question. It is a hypothetical question without any basis.

If you have any fact, proof, etc. based on Google's terms-of-service (TOS) then that might be "legit", but you are just asking a question without any basis.

Your question is little different than,

"What if men on the moon don't like our cookies?"..... you are asking a hypothetical question without any basis for fact that leads to a pointless discussion.

You cannot remove the "Powered by Google" phrase, it is strictly against Google's TOS. Go read it.... ;)

TheWhite 10-26-2009 03:58 PM

imported_silkroad ,

I have donated and want to remove the authors credits/copyright and not googles so wheres the coder?

PS. Please identify yourself as a team member of this mod before answering.

Regards

imported_silkroad 10-26-2009 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWhite (Post 1906463)
imported_silkroad ,

I have donated and want to remove the authors credits/copyright and not googles so wheres the coder?

PS. Please identify yourself as a team member of this mod before answering.

Regards

Even a reasonable person cannot understand your ramblings. In one post you are talking about Googles TOS, the next you are talking about author / mod copyright.

I also thought your original post, before you edited it, was very childish.


Here is the message that has just been posted:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWhite (Post 1906463)
1) I'm not talking to you.
2) I have donated and want to remove the authors credits/copyright and not googles ...duh... so wheres the coder?
3) I don't need any advise from you and your tiny little every small board so don't answer.

I will answer any question I please. Especially the vague, uninformed Google TOS babble that distracts NLP-er from his good work :D

If you want to talk to NPL-er directly (and no one else reply), use the PM function. P in PM stands for Private.

This is a public forum.

TheWhite 10-26-2009 05:11 PM

1) I never talked about google tos, I talked about googles translation service and since somewhere on your forum I saw a buy feature I don't think google would be to fond about it, on the other hand a donation for the work done is fine as I'm a proud donor.

2) You should act as a professional since your part of the coders team.

PS. I have sent 2 PMs which stands for Private Messages.

This is a public forum.

Regards

floggerss 10-26-2009 11:52 PM

I need the rewrite rules for lighttpd. PLS

NLP-er 10-28-2009 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWhite (Post 1906282)
If google doesn't want it's services to be used in this way, then what?

Then it would be prohibited in conditions, but it is not :)

NLP-er 10-28-2009 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWhite (Post 1906294)
It's a legit question, if google don't want its services to be used in this way and requests a stop then what?

anyway how much is the minimal donation to have the copyright removed?

Answered in PM :)

TheWhite 10-29-2009 02:34 AM

Thanks alot you've answered all of my questions, keep up the good work. :)

Regards

Cybershaolin 10-29-2009 04:43 AM

Lately, I've got many error databases on my forum. My server runs fine and have no problems at all with it. I did not have those errors before (I mean since the time I used this hack) but it just started recently.

It clearly looks that it's coming from the hack.

Code:

Database error in vBulletin 3.8.3:

Invalid SQL:

                                        UPDATE session
                                        SET lastactivity = 1256788168, location = '/forum/archive/index.php/t-1320.html?language=ga', inforum = 50, inthread = 1320, incalendar = 0, badlocation = 0, bypass = 1
                                        WHERE sessionhash = '0ee85582403662c70bcb27c3c602f5fb';

MySQL Error  : MySQL server has gone away
Error Number  : 2006

Most of them are created from IP's coming from Google.

imported_silkroad 10-30-2009 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWhite (Post 1906503)
I don't think google would be to (sic) fond about it

I am a long time user of forum translation mods and one of the first people to donate to NLP-er. Our site has over 4M PVs each month and our site map of translated pages, concentrating on around 15 languages, is over 8M links.

You (TheWhite) did mention Google's TOS (above and before, albeit indirectly) and you made a general (and wrong) statement that you "think" Google might not appreciate this translation mod (use of their service). You said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWhite (Post 1906503)
I don't think google would be to (sic) fond about it

Your statement above is a direct, unfounded (and incorrect) opinion about Google's TOS.

The fact of the matter is that Google's TOS is clear about usage and there is nothing in the Google TOS that is negative on using their service for automated machine language translation. Google encourages it. In fact, Google provides a API key for users to use their service and guidelines on giving Google credit "Powered by Google", and also on translation caching.

This mod was designed by NLP-er to be completely compliant with Google's TOS. Therefore, your statement that Google is not fond of this type of mod is completely wrong and unfounded (without any basis of fact).

This is a very professional reply. Spreading unfounded fear, uncertainty and doubt is, in my opinion, unprofessional and hence the reason I replied to your misinformation and FUD. I think users here should have facts and not unfounded "opinions" that create FUD and are not based on any facts or in Google's TOS.

I hope you will cease arguing with me about this issue and will drop your tact of "name calling". In my opinion, your posting of fear, uncertainly and doubt, without any basis of fact, is problematic and hence, as a long time user, I replied to clear the misinformation in your posts.

You have been corrected. Accept it and move on. Thanks.

floggerss 10-30-2009 09:45 PM

I need the rewrite rules for lighttpd. PLS

NLP-er 11-01-2009 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybershaolin (Post 1907682)
Lately, I've got many error databases on my forum. My server runs fine and have no problems at all with it. I did not have those errors before (I mean since the time I used this hack) but it just started recently.

It clearly looks that it's coming from the hack.

Code:

Database error in vBulletin 3.8.3:

Invalid SQL:

                                        UPDATE session
                                        SET lastactivity = 1256788168, location = '/forum/archive/index.php/t-1320.html?language=ga', inforum = 50, inthread = 1320, incalendar = 0, badlocation = 0, bypass = 1
                                        WHERE sessionhash = '0ee85582403662c70bcb27c3c602f5fb';

MySQL Error  : MySQL server has gone away
Error Number  : 2006

Most of them are created from IP's coming from Google.

This issue is harmless, so you can be calm. Translations and normal pages are working well.

I thought that this issue disappear after few changes, but I see that it will be necessary to investigate it again.

NLP-er 11-01-2009 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floggerss (Post 1908483)
I need the rewrite rules for lighttpd. PLS

Can anyone already did it and want to share with floggerss? :)

NLP-er 11-04-2009 11:17 PM

Many of you asked and asked when vBET 3.x will be available to buy, cannot wait to have it on your own forum. So great news is - since today :)

And even better news is that for first month of sale (till end end of November 2009) we have or you great promotion - 50% discount. See here for details: GREAT vBET 3.x PROMOTION!

NLP-er 11-04-2009 11:27 PM

2.3.4 Released

Corrected bug for translation of description and title in meta tags.

It was small, but very important bug - description is how Google shows your page in results.

Cybershaolin 11-05-2009 01:52 AM

3.1.0 Bought! Thanks, this is a great day! Was waiting for this to happen since a few weeks! :)

jaderollie 11-05-2009 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybershaolin (Post 1910384)
3.1.0 Bought! Thanks, this is a great day! Was waiting for this to happen since a few weeks! :)

where can we buy??

dai-kun 11-05-2009 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaderollie (Post 1910404)
where can we buy??

http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/

zombietom 11-05-2009 12:17 PM

What are the main differences between the paid version and the free version.
thanks -I already use the free version and it is great and has increased my hits a lot.

NLP-er 11-05-2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zombietom (Post 1910543)
What are the main differences between the paid version and the free version.
thanks -I already use the free version and it is great and has increased my hits a lot.

For main differences see here:
http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.co...lator-3-x.html

For details just look on all green things here :D:
http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.co...-features.html

Kolbi 11-05-2009 07:27 PM

Where are advantages between your addon and vB Global Translator (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1910691)?

cobaku 11-05-2009 07:52 PM

I dont understand how people use this addon
it has massive overload to php
it has massive overload to mysql (did not test this one just a guess)
no way it can work for medium to big boards

Not only this but the other translators have same overload problem.
But i am not denying it is a great mod.

dai-kun 11-05-2009 07:57 PM

I have over 1 million+ posts and have been using this for awhile now. I don't see any heavy load resulting from this mod.

45wheelgun 11-05-2009 09:29 PM

I don't know what you think is a big board, but I have it running on a board with 6000 active users, 450,000 posts, and 50,000 users. Run with over 1000 users online for hours at a time. My site map is 2,100,000 pages.

Oh, and this add-on runs like a champ with no noticeable strain on the system. The add-on rocks!

cobaku 11-06-2009 05:02 AM

it must be something with my php settings then
strange

NLP-er 11-06-2009 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolbi (Post 1910693)
Where are advantages between your addon and vB Global Translator (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1910691)?

Global is illegal - Dave stole my code (and also money) and have no right to use my cache system. I'm still waiting till administrators of this forum will do something with that (anyway - someone knows a lawyer who could help me with this issue? or some agency where I can notice software piracy?)

Other things - global is weeeeeeeek. Just compare list of features. Also it is ugly with installation.

And more important My is much, much, much , much faster. Faster, better, easier, and more powerful.

Also - as I remember you already asked this question once ;)

NLP-er 11-06-2009 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobaku (Post 1910705)
I dont understand how people use this addon
it has massive overload to php
it has massive overload to mysql (did not test this one just a guess)
no way it can work for medium to big boards

Not only this but the other translators have same overload problem.
But i am not denying it is a great mod.

If you did not test it so do not tell how it behaves. Maybe when you already test it, and see how fast and powerful it is, maybe then you will understand why it is used by hundreds of forums. And why so many people said me thank you for this great mod.

You do NOT know does this mod has any overload problem. And it fact - it is greatly optimized and very fast.

I'm glad that you admit that it is great mod. Perhaps if you test things which you wrote about you could say something real in this topic :)

NLP-er 11-06-2009 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 45wheelgun (Post 1910738)
I don't know what you think is a big board, but I have it running on a board with 6000 active users, 450,000 posts, and 50,000 users. Run with over 1000 users online for hours at a time. My site map is 2,100,000 pages.

Oh, and this add-on runs like a champ with no noticeable strain on the system. The add-on rocks!

And this is kind of real information - straight from the field :)

Thanks for showing true face of this mod and have fun! :)

NLP-er 11-06-2009 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dai-kun (Post 1910707)
I have over 1 million+ posts and have been using this for awhile now. I don't see any heavy load resulting from this mod.

Even I didn't realized that I made such rocket of this mod :D And still have idea how to optimize more :D:D:D

Kolbi 11-06-2009 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLP-er (Post 1910982)
Global is illegal - Dave stole my code (and also money) and have no right to use my cache system. I'm still waiting till administrators of this forum will do something with that (anyway - someone knows a lawyer who could help me with this issue? or some agency where I can notice software piracy?)

Other things - global is weeeeeeeek. Just compare list of features. Also it is ugly with installation.

And more important My is much, much, much , much faster. Faster, better, easier, and more powerful.

Also - as I remember you already asked this question once ;)

Okay thank you!
But will it be updated to vb 4.0?

And is it possible to update later to the paid version?

jaderollie 11-06-2009 03:21 PM

ill stick with NLP-er, and ill buy this tomorrow

CThiessen 11-06-2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolbi (Post 1910693)
Where are advantages between your addon and vB Global Translator (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1910691)?

Hi,
with the 1st version of vB Global Translato Mod i had some problems.
Do a have request of some spiders my server stop working.

In the Moment I use the Mod of NLP-er. But I cant say if the problems stops because of the new Mod or because I block that spider in the firewall.
But the Mod from NLP-er is much faster.

And Users have the possibility to chose their language so everything they writing will be translated and other User might answer in their mother language.
I do have two threads in other languages.
On of them is a real success story.
Its a girl from Brazil. She register to my forum 2 Years ago as she plans move to Germany. Now she find my forum again on Google with a translated page.
And she find the possibility to select her language in her settings.
I just had a long telephone call with her. She is real glad that she could write in Portuguese and the answers in German are translated. She find help an new contact's here in Germany.
With the Mod from NLP-er is is possible to create real international community's.

Christian

Kolbi 11-06-2009 05:15 PM

I have a little bug.
If I translate a thread and then want to return to forumhome and click on my logo it redirectes to http://www.2-wheel-planet.de/en and then I get an 400 failure message?!?



How much ressources does this addon needs?

dai-kun 11-06-2009 05:47 PM

Your url suppose to be http://www.2-wheel-planet.de/en/, it's missing a slash.
What is the htaccess you have for vbet?

How much resource as in what? Mysql space usage?

NLP-er 11-06-2009 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolbi (Post 1910991)
Okay thank you!
But will it be updated to vb 4.0?

And is it possible to update later to the paid version?

It will support 4.0 - booth free and commercial version :)

You can switch from free version to paid one any time. However if you use vBSEO it would be best for you to make it faster than slower. It is because in such configuration you have great support of vBET to translate threat links :) So Google will index your translated pages under links with keywords in translated language :)

NLP-er 11-06-2009 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaderollie (Post 1910999)
ill stick with NLP-er, and ill buy this tomorrow

Glad to hear and have fun with lot of great additional features in vBET 3.x :):up:

NLP-er 11-06-2009 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CThiessen (Post 1911031)
Hi,
with the 1st version of vB Global Translato Mod i had some problems.
Do a have request of some spiders my server stop working.

In the Moment I use the Mod of NLP-er. But I cant say if the problems stops because of the new Mod or because I block that spider in the firewall.
But the Mod from NLP-er is much faster.

And Users have the possibility to chose their language so everything they writing will be translated and other User might answer in their mother language.
I do have two threads in other languages.
On of them is a real success story.
Its a girl from Brazil. She register to my forum 2 Years ago as she plans move to Germany. Now she find my forum again on Google with a translated page.
And she find the possibility to select her language in her settings.
I just had a long telephone call with her. She is real glad that she could write in Portuguese and the answers in German are translated. She find help an new contact's here in Germany.
With the Mod from NLP-er is is possible to create real international community's.

Christian

I would be really glad if you can write it on vBET forum :) Anyway - my congratulations!!! Make sure that people will understand that they have this possibility and you will get lot of new users. They will bring you theirs friends :) Other forums don't gives them what you can give them now. So - it is good to write some word about multi language support in message for guests :)

NLP-er 11-06-2009 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolbi (Post 1911046)
I have a little bug.
If I translate a thread and then want to return to forumhome and click on my logo it redirectes to http://www.2-wheel-planet.de/en and then I get an 400 failure message?!?



How much ressources does this addon needs?

I see it. Thanks for notice - I will correct it in next release. For booth versions of course :) As I announces vBET 2.x will be maintained.

EDITED
Sorry but I cannot reproduce it on my 4 forums (2 real, 2 test) in different configurations. Can you PM me Access Details to your FTP (I think I will not need Admin CP). It would help me to find out what happens.

EDITED 2
Ok :) I have it corrected and tested already (thanks 45Wheelgun for access :):up:) It will be included in next release.

About resources. It will take quite of space in your DB for cache, but hard drive is not an issue in this time and all data are indexed so access is immediate :)

NLP-er 11-06-2009 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dai-kun (Post 1911055)
Your url suppose to be http://www.2-wheel-planet.de/en/, it's missing a slash.
What is the htaccess you have for vbet?

Yes - vBET is missing this slash, but I cannot reproduce it on my forum, so it is very good question about htaccess rules :)


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