is it me

Like I said, I'm not saying.

If the code was clean, I wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place, now would I? Liz

lol some of those suxxorz bad

if you are to judge code based on that you are out of your mind rofl

roflmao

[high]* Dream goes do something else[/high]

We all need to chill out. We're not getting anywhere now. This thread is on the verge of getting closed, I think. It has been discussed/argued about all it can be for now.

Why close thread? If anybody has something to say, just let them. ://

Because it's just rehashing everything all over again and again. And too many people have lashed out in here at one another. We should just agree to disagree and leave it at that for now, don't you think?

That doesn't mean it has to be closed...we can, however, take a break from it for now. If someone NEW comes along and has a FRESH thought? Liz

Okay then let's all agree to doing the filter, and then you can close the thread if you like .. :)

Yeah.

Sorry, I won't agree to a filter. ;)

@Liz - I have no problem leaving it open if the jabs and hostility stops. We'll see how it goes for now. ;)

I'll be the first one to admit that I'm still learning -- 10 years from now, I'll still be learning.

What's 'standard/valid/safe' today will not necessarily be 'standard/valid/safe' tomorrow.

Although I agree with some points, I think a system like this will fail and die out within a few weeks if ever implemented. You are counting on 'volunteer' resources that come and go.

vb.org/volunteers should NOT:

• Tell people how to code.
• Tell people which mod to install.
• They should however, empower others with knowledge.

The average vbulletin member (users):

• The majority of users are not interested in 'standards' -- they don't even know what it is.
• The majority of users are only looking for additional functions/features to add on their existing board. They will install regardless of 'labels'.

What they need are guides and/or how-to's regarding 'standards', security, php, xhtml, css, xml, xss, etc, etc. Knowledge is Power. With this 'power' users can come up with their own conclusion regarding any mod.

Here's what I suggest:

1. There should be an Article/Guide/How-To section.
   • It should be clearly stated.
   • This section should be found within the upper-half of the page.
   • You should direct all members to it (registration email, pm, post, etc).
   • A 'security' article should be stickied GLOBALLY or prepended automatically on every mod thread.
2. the PREMIUM forum :down: - anyone can get their mod listed
   • it's misleading - 'premium' has a 'superior quality' connotation to it (NOTE: I'm not saying that what is there now is not 'quality'.)
   • To a new member, it would appear as if vb.org gave it a 'thumbs up' or is endorsing it. Yea, I know there is a 'more info' but how many users actually take the time to read it -- especially, when PREMIUM is in BOLD?
   • I would move all the mods back to FULL RELEASES (however, mod authors should stay with the same options as they have within the PREMIUM section) eg. a 'supported' mod forum found in PREMIUM moved into PORTAL SOFTWARE as a sub-forum
   • A mod can be 'supported' today but that doesn't mean that the author will 'support' it tomorrow. What then?

just my (counting fingers) 1-2-3?;