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BadgerDog 03-10-2009 08:11 PM
Hi ... :)

I'm currently running "Multiple account login detector (AE Detector)" on my v3.67pl1 site for last two years. Seems to work fine except AOL proxies always light it up like a christmas tree. :D

Could I un-install the above and move to this, or is my version of vBulletin too old, like me .. ;)

Thanks for any feedback.... :up:

Regards,
Badger

Kiros72 03-11-2009 10:49 AM
I have tested an earlier version of this modification with vBulletin 3.6.0 and it worked just fine. In theory, this latest version should work perfectly fine with any vBulletin version from 3.6 to 3.8.

If you have any problems, I can help you out. Also, if you install this modification and then chose to uninstall it, the IDstack cookies will remain intact, so you'll be able to switch back to the AE detector if you'd like. The only way that the cookies will lose their tracking information is if you do a cookie reset with my modification, but there's no real reason to use that nowadays.

BadgerDog 03-11-2009 11:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiros72 (Post 1765619)
I have tested an earlier version of this modification with vBulletin 3.6.0 and it worked just fine. In theory, this latest version should work perfectly fine with any vBulletin version from 3.6 to 3.8.

If you have any problems, I can help you out. Also, if you install this modification and then chose to uninstall it, the IDstack cookies will remain intact, so you'll be able to switch back to the AE detector if you'd like. The only way that the cookies will lose their tracking information is if you do a cookie reset with my modification, but there's no real reason to use that nowadays.
Thank you ... :up:

Appreciate your feedback and offer to help very much..... :)

I will install it and see what happens. I guess I bette un-install my current "Multiple account login detector (AE Detector)" first.

Regards,
Badger

BadgerDog 03-11-2009 12:16 PM
A follow up.... :)

Un-installed my current "Multiple account login detector (AE Detector)"

Installed v1.1.1 of your mod on v3.67pl1 and it went smoothly....

Checked options and decided to turn "Silent Mode" ON for now, until I understand how the mod works better. So, I'll just read reports for a bit before turning if OFF.... :D

BTW, you have some of the most thorough and well documented instructions, plus on-line "?" help by field assistance I've ever seen in any mod. Thank you for that. :up:

I already have over 6,000 members and we get about 1,100 logging in every 24 hours. Because we are a "collectors" oriented web site, we get a lot of father, son, wife type members with different user names, yet they all use the SAME computer, so at this point I'm trying to be safe than sorry and not screw up their access. I guess I need to go through the members list and find those folks, adding them to the "ignored users" list by individual ID?

Finally, I left the following OFF because that was your default setting, plus I'm not sure I fully understand the impact of turning them ON yet, but I'll work on that... :D

Quote:
IP Address Prevention
Whether or not to check for matching registration IP addresses for new registrants if no cookie is found. Yes No

Extended IP Address Prevention
Whether or not to check for matching IP addresses even after cookie information is found and used.
Looks like a great mod... appreciate your efforts ... :up:

I hope it works well with my v3,67pl1 as I have far too much customization to upgrade at this point.

Regards,
Doug (Badger)

Kiros72 03-11-2009 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BadgerDog (Post 1765681)
A follow up.... :)

Un-installed my current "Multiple account login detector (AE Detector)"

Installed v1.1.1 of your mod on v3.67pl1 and it went smoothly....

Checked options and decided to turn "Silent Mode" ON for now, until I understand how the mod works better. So, I'll just read reports for a bit before turning if OFF.... :D

BTW, you have some of the most thorough and well documented instructions, plus on-line "?" help by field assistance I've ever seen in any mod. Thank you for that. :up:

I already have over 6,000 members and we get about 1,100 logging in every 24 hours. Because we are a "collectors" oriented web site, we get a lot of father, son, wife type members with different user names, yet they all use the SAME computer, so at this point I'm trying to be safe than sorry and not screw up their access. I guess I need to go through the members list and find those folks, adding them to the "ignored users" list by individual ID?

Finally, I left the following OFF because that was your default setting, plus I'm not sure I fully understand the impact of turning them ON yet, but I'll work on that... :D



Looks like a great mod... appreciate your efforts ... :up:

I hope it works well with my v3,67pl1 as I have far too much customization to upgrade at this point.

Regards,
Doug (Badger)
Thank you for the complements :)

I would like to point out that if you have "Silent Mode" enabled, you will not get any reports. That's what is silent about it. If you want to get these reports of multiple accounts, turn "Silent Mode" off.

Since your site has numerous families in the community, I suggest creating some Usergroup ("Family Members") and adding this group to known family members as a Secondary Usergroup. Then you can add this Usergroup ID to the ignore list.

In a nutshell, there are IP address options because some members may clear their cookies or use a different browser in order to register another account. Without the IP address checks, a user could get away with this, but with the checks, they have far less of a chance unless they go weeks without logging in or have a very dynamic IP address.

Good luck, and please let me know if my modification works well on your vBulletin 3.6.7 PL1 board ;)

Edit:

My bad. "Silent Mode" will only send reports rather than taking action. Thank you for bringing that up in an email :)

titodj 03-13-2009 01:11 PM
Ok it seems to be working now.. at least part.
It detects and post the multiple log in's, but it does not place the new created accounts in the specified usergroup.

This are my settings...

* Move to Specific Usergroup
* Silent Mode Off
* Prevention Usergroup 42 (dupped acc group)

Am I missing something?

BlueNinjaGo 03-13-2009 06:44 PM
Installed and it works great.... Excellent!

Kiros72 03-13-2009 07:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by titodj (Post 1767188)
Ok it seems to be working now.. at least part.
It detects and post the multiple log in's, but it does not place the new created accounts in the specified usergroup.

This are my settings...

* Move to Specific Usergroup
* Silent Mode Off
* Prevention Usergroup 42 (dupped acc group)

Am I missing something?
Please turn on verbose mode and post one of the prevention reports here along with your vBulletin version.

titodj 03-13-2009 11:46 PM
this two had an acc and just opened a new one.

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Kiros72 03-14-2009 11:10 PM
Alright, now were those login detections or were they registration preventions?

Login detections are just detections at the moment. Only registration prevention will actually do something about it.

By the way, I'm not sure if you're suggesting that the two detections above are related, but it looks like they are totally different.


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