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Wired1 11-16-2009 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gav-n-Tn (Post 1915050)
Wait a minute here! Have I been missing out on some dialogue? Are we talking about adding a function to the AdminCP that submits the rejected registrars data to SFS without having to log on and fill out all three fields and submit them manually?

Welcome to LAST YEAR :)

Quote:

For code to submit spammers to the database, check this post for code changes
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showp...&postcount=288
I made those code changes into a small plugin:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....&postcount=289

Note that all of the above is mentioned in the main plugin description above.

It shows up as a box in their UserCP. What pedigree is currently talking about is adding a checkbox to the "delete post as spam" menu to make it simpler.

Gav-n-Tn 11-16-2009 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wired1 (Post 1915065)
Welcome to LAST YEAR :)

We old guys are always behind even when we think we are not :) I can't believe that existed with out me knowing it. Well actually..............yes I can :)

Wired1 11-16-2009 06:59 AM

Nah, it's just that Tennessee firewater getting to ya :)

Gav-n-Tn 11-16-2009 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wired1 (Post 1915080)
Nah, it's just that Tennessee firewater getting to ya :)

LOL. We call it wildcat whiskey where I come from :)

pedigree 11-16-2009 07:47 AM

For the rest of the world, its called Gasoline :)

pedigree 11-16-2009 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skydiver10 (Post 1914860)
Installed thanks for this mod. The only thing...I followed:

4 - You can edit the default rejection message by Admin Control Panel / Languages & Phrases / Phrase Manager / Front-End Error Messages / vbstopformspam_reject and vbstopformspam_reject_connectionerror

There is no "Front-End Error Messages" there. Only "Front-End Redirect messages"

And what exactly does this edit? Is this an important edit? Thanks

If you search for these in the phrase manager, youll find them to edit

vbstopformspam_reject
vbstopformspam_reject_connectionerror

Gav-n-Tn 11-16-2009 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedigree (Post 1915100)
For the rest of the world, its called Gasoline :)

HaHa. I guess you could run a car on it fairly easy :) I will have to see about that auto-reporting add on. I honestly did not know it was there. I am still doing it the old fashioned way. One positive thing about that part is that it puts me on site and I can blabber on in the SFS forum like I actually know what I am talking about :)

pedigree 11-16-2009 09:55 AM

Well, good news, Ive had confirmation that it works in vb4 beta 3 :)

Gav-n-Tn 11-16-2009 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedigree (Post 1915147)
Well, good news, Ive had confirmation that it works in vb4 beta 3 :)

Great! I wonder if any of the other well-thought-out hacks will work as well.

pedigree 11-16-2009 02:44 PM

0.61 will work with vb4 but 0.7 will not until Ive re-rewritten all of the template change code

pedigree 11-16-2009 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gav-n-Tn (Post 1915165)
Great! I wonder if any of the other well-thought-out hacks will work as well.

Looking at the template code, anything that changes a template, either manually or automatically, will not work in vb4

Moondog604 11-18-2009 05:34 PM

This Mod works great.

How ever I am seeing a slight issue in my logs. Since installing yesterday it shows 39 entries and says 4 of them were approved, when I search for these users they do not exists. The log entries also are not associated with a user ID.

I ran a test and registered on my own and it worked fine.

When I looked at the approved accounts a couple of them were .ru email addresses so obviously they were spammers. But when I went to stopforumspam.com I couldn't find any reference to them.

I don't think the blocked accounts were legit by any means, but they said they were allowed. Would indicate to me there is a bug in the process some where.

I am running 3.8.3

Canelo_Kid 11-18-2009 11:18 PM

I installed it and it works like a charm, Thank you:D

pedigree 11-19-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moondog604 (Post 1916713)
This Mod works great.

How ever I am seeing a slight issue in my logs. Since installing yesterday it shows 39 entries and says 4 of them were approved, when I search for these users they do not exists. The log entries also are not associated with a user ID.

I ran a test and registered on my own and it worked fine.

When I looked at the approved accounts a couple of them were .ru email addresses so obviously they were spammers. But when I went to stopforumspam.com I couldn't find any reference to them.

I don't think the blocked accounts were legit by any means, but they said they were allowed. Would indicate to me there is a bug in the process some where.

I am running 3.8.3

This has been covered but as the thread is getting long, its not a problem :)

What happens with "approved" is really a miswording (to quote Hillary Clinton). "Approved" means that its passed all the tests done by this mod, not by vbulletin. It means that this mod hasnt found a match on any of the fields that you are testing on and has passed control back to vbulletin for all its tests (dup email, banned ip, password length, catcpha testing etc). The registrations wouldve been stopped by one of the vbulletin tests as my mods processing takes place first because of the place in the scripts that its executed at.

Hope thats clear :)

If you find, in your logs, a spammer thats banned on username/ip address but you dont find an email address for them on the website, please feel free to add them to the databases (details on how to on stopforumspam.com)

pedigree 11-19-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canelo_Kid (Post 1916906)
I installed it and it works like a charm, Thank you:D

Youre welcome :D

thbertram 11-19-2009 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moondog604 (Post 1916713)
...When I looked at the approved accounts a couple of them were .ru email addresses so obviously they were spammers. But when I went to stopforumspam.com I couldn't find any reference to them.

I don't think the blocked accounts were legit by any means, but they said they were allowed. Would indicate to me there is a bug in the process some where.

I am running 3.8.3

The fact that there was no reference to them at StopForumSpam.com is the reason that they passed inspection by this plug-in. Those would be the spammers that you want to make sure you add to the SFS list.

Barteh 11-19-2009 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedigree (Post 1917113)
This has been covered but as the thread is getting long, its not a problem :)

What happens with "approved" is really a miswording (to quote Hillary Clinton). "Approved" means that its passed all the tests done by this mod, not by vbulletin. It means that this mod hasnt found a match on any of the fields that you are testing on and has passed control back to vbulletin for all its tests (dup email, banned ip, password length, catcpha testing etc). The registrations wouldve been stopped by one of the vbulletin tests as my mods processing takes place first because of the place in the scripts that its executed at.

Hope thats clear :)

If you find, in your logs, a spammer thats banned on username/ip address but you dont find an email address for them on the website, please feel free to add them to the databases (details on how to on stopforumspam.com)

You could replace it in the next release with a more neutral wording like "no match found". Prevents questions I suppose :)

Belated congrats on the MotM award by the way!

pedigree 11-19-2009 02:39 PM

Barteh - its already been changed to exactly that, "no match found"

And thanks, it was a great feeling to get listed on teh motd, let alone win it.

jmke 11-27-2009 01:16 PM

thanks, works great; already caught a potential spammer 1 min after install:)

Gav-n-Tn 11-27-2009 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moondog604 (Post 1916713)
This Mod works great.

How ever I am seeing a slight issue in my logs. Since installing yesterday it shows 39 entries and says 4 of them were approved, when I search for these users they do not exists. The log entries also are not associated with a user ID.

I ran a test and registered on my own and it worked fine.

When I looked at the approved accounts a couple of them were .ru email addresses so obviously they were spammers. But when I went to stopforumspam.com I couldn't find any reference to them.

I don't think the blocked accounts were legit by any means, but they said they were allowed. Would indicate to me there is a bug in the process some where.

I am running 3.8.3

The first question is are you moderating new members? I would advise you to if you aren't. If you are, when they see that it requires a second step to register, they realize that you are moderating new members and do not finish the registration process for fear of being discovered. They got that far because they were NOT in the SFS database. I've said it before and I'll say it again; All spammers are not in the database so you need to investigate them if they (new registrants) look suspicious. They aquire new e-mails and IPs all of the time. SFS does not have EVERY spammer listed which is why they count on us to report them. It also pays to check against other anti-spam sites too as a back up to SFS. There are several.

Gav-n-Tn 11-27-2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wired1 (Post 1915065)
Welcome to LAST YEAR :)


I made those code changes into a small plugin:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....&postcount=289

Note that all of the above is mentioned in the main plugin description above.

It shows up as a box in their UserCP. What pedigree is currently talking about is adding a checkbox to the "delete post as spam" menu to make it simpler.

Do I need to upload your code add on in the AdminCP just like you would any other product? Or What? I have saved the files, I just need to know that tid bit of exactly what to do with them. Also, works fine in 3.8.4? One more, works alright even if moderating new members is turned on? Thanks

Zi55 11-28-2009 12:36 PM

STopforumspam is down again .. we need an stable solution :(

Gav-n-Tn 11-28-2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zi55 (Post 1922020)
STopforumspam is down again .. we need an stable solution :(

That's the first time that I have seen it down since my install. I have my new registrants set to moderation anyway and you have the option in vBSFS to deny until it is back up too. I'm sure as more people use the site, the load increases exponentially.

pedigree 11-28-2009 01:12 PM

<a href="https://www.stopforumspam.com/forum/t1024-Sorry-downtime" target="_blank">http://www.stopforumspam.com/forum/t1024-Sorry-downtime</a>

earth.devppl.com decided to use the remaining 100gb of monthly bandwidth themselves in a denial of service attack against the webserver.

We would have a more stable solution but this service is funded out of our own pockets and ad revenue isnt enough. Unless someone fancies providing a dns round robin system with means to replicate mysql on a live cluster, its going to remain on a single server, with as much optimization as we can provide with the very limited funds available. So far, for a free service, I dont think were running too bad.

Gav-n-Tn 11-28-2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedigree (Post 1922026)
http://www.stopforumspam.com/forum/t1024-Sorry-downtime

earth.devppl.com decided to use the remaining 100gb of monthly bandwidth themselves in a denial of service attack against the webserver.

We would have a more stable solution but this service is funded out of our own pockets and ad revenue isnt enough. Unless someone fancies providing a dns round robin system with means to replicate mysql on a live cluster, its going to remain on a single server, with as much optimization as we can provide with the very limited funds available. So far, for a free service, I dont think were running too bad.

Free is hard to beat no matter how you look at it. I'll take what I can get as compared to what I had :) any day of the week.

Zi55 11-30-2009 05:34 PM

Why not to prvide a spammer database , which updated on daily bases or weekly bases ?
Thanks ,
Zi5

skippybosco 11-30-2009 10:36 PM

@Zi55: real time checks allow you to get matches on new spammers as they are attacking. The vB SFS plugin does cache data locally to avoid the SFS round trip if the spammer is in your local cache.

That being said, a spammer database is available for download here:

http://www.stopforumspam.com/downloads/

orchidsi 12-02-2009 10:42 PM

Love this. Been using it since May, and it stops 10-15 spammers a day. Only 3 have gotten through since install.

I would guess it is because we updated to vb3.8.4, but I don't see the "sumbit user to StopForumSpam" interface in the admincp when editing a user. Do I need to reinstall the mod? Is this a problem others have had?

Again... LOVE THE MOD!

skippybosco 12-02-2009 11:13 PM

the current version of the mod does not have a "submit user to SFS" interface. That is a hack to the mod discussed inline within this thread and not a part of the official download.

0.7 (codenamed: unicorn) will have the ability to submit as part of the official download. There is currently not a release date scheduled.

orchidsi 12-02-2009 11:46 PM

I was able to submit users before without the extra mod. Regardless, I just downloaded it and installed it. Thanks.

Barteh 12-03-2009 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skippybosco (Post 1923248)
@Zi55: real time checks allow you to get matches on new spammers as they are attacking. The vB SFS plugin does cache data locally to avoid the SFS round trip if the spammer is in your local cache.

That being said, a spammer database is available for download here:

http://www.stopforumspam.com/downloads/

Would be interesting if vBSFS would offer the possibility of synchronising the full list to a local file, the way denyhosts grabs new IPs from the denyhosts database (50 at a time iirc) and adds them to hosts.deny. Both vastly reduces traffic to the SFS database and offers a fallback in case of connection problems to it :)

skippybosco 12-03-2009 12:40 AM

that is what the local caching of the db does in this plugin. it only makes a call to the sfs if the registrant is not in the local file. that file is updated periodically based on settings.

Barteh 12-03-2009 01:07 PM

Was thinking of a *full* copy being synced :)
I suppose I could increase the time limit for that, at the moment it only stores recent query results for 30 mins. A week (10080 mins) shouldn't be a problem I reckon.

JohnK 12-04-2009 11:29 AM

Thanks for a great mod! :up:

It's working brilliantly for me. Now I need to work out the best way to do my bit to add to the SFS database.

I've installed the mod from Wired1, but is there currently any way to report spammers from the "vbStopForumSpam Log Viewer" page? I don't think so, but I may have missed something.

A checkbox for multiple selections would make it very quick to use, and would be an easy way of reporting obvious spammers that aren't in the SFS database, but don't get past the VB captcha etc.

pedigree 12-06-2009 07:25 PM

Thanks for the feedback, Ive been a little slack over the last week in keeping up the date with the thread but I do have a bit of good news

gmail.com - I hate it. I hate it because they normalise all the email addresses. It removes all the .'s and ignores everything to the right of a + in an email address

spammer joeblogs@gmail.com registers and uses joe...b.l.o.g.s@gmail.com or joe.blogs+spam@gmail.com and it all gets delivered to the same account but this throws the api as it did a like for like comparison... until now

I spent the last week running tests on a new code and database revisions on the stopforumspam.com website

So now if joe...blogs+aaakslsl@gmail.com registers on your forum and joe..blogs+ss11.......1.1.1.1@gmail.com has been listed as a spammer, youll get a positive hit and the registration will be denied.

adnedarn 12-06-2009 08:09 PM

Nicely done! I'm new to the mod (installed yesterday) but it seems great. I appreciate all the coders work around here! This mod definitely seems like a must. :) I was unaware that stopforumspam was you though! I've been using that resource for a while now :)
Andrew

pedigree 12-06-2009 08:30 PM

its not me as such, I just do most of the coding and database maintenance there at the moment.

adnedarn 12-06-2009 08:57 PM

Ahh I see. Well, good work on any account :) especially with gmail being such a factor of spam... and their high usage of periods in email addys so far it seems.

messengermatt 12-07-2009 09:46 AM

Im going to test install on Beta 5

pedigree 12-07-2009 12:33 PM

Great, Ive only been able to test it on beta 3 so I look forward to being able to update the mod description with "works in 4.0 beta 5" :)


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