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Ted S 05-17-2007 01:14 AM

Looks like it's working now. Give it a test.

Burley 05-17-2007 07:34 AM

It does seem to work :D Thanks for your support.
Allthough I've no clue what was wrong there.

But it doesn't work when I log in as an Admin/super mod, is that correct?

kennethsia 05-17-2007 09:38 AM

works on my 3.6.5 thanks

SilverVice 05-17-2007 04:33 PM

Any French translator for this great mod? :D

The Dane 05-17-2007 10:04 PM

This works very well.

Now I have recently started seeing my welcome message included in all my Google search descriptions, which could turn out very bad, they might put the results in supplemental and of course my welcome header is not a good descripiption to get visitors to click in anyways.

So a wish for next version would be NOT to show headers to search engine bots...

My Google traffic went down a bunch after this happened :(

Thanks to Ted for your hard work.

da420 05-18-2007 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dane (Post 1249782)
This works very well.

Now I have recently started seeing my welcome message included in all my Google search descriptions, which could turn out very bad, they might put the results in supplemental and of course my welcome header is not a good descripiption to get visitors to click in anyways.

So a wish for next version would be NOT to show headers to search engine bots...

My Google traffic went down a bunch after this happened :(

Thanks to Ted for your hard work.

You can make it into an image.

http://www.vbseo.com/f28/how-make-yo...rs-image-7549/

Burley 05-18-2007 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by da420 (Post 1249860)

That would also be an option.

This hack/mod lets bots view the forum as registered members, I believe you can even set a special usergroup for it. So if we were able to set the usergroups for which this mod shows the messages (since this mod doesn't show the headers to supermods & admins) I think that would be a better way to go.

Especially if you have more then one language installed.

Just my 2 cents

edit: look for this code in the welcomeheader product file;

PHP Code:

<if condition="$wlhtime > $bbuserinfo[lastpost] AND $vboptions[wlhpostmoreoften] AND !is_member_of($bbuserinfo,6,5) AND !$show['guest']"

Ad the code for your bot usergroup and you should be fine :)

Ted S 05-18-2007 10:49 PM

I would actually recommend the image option over any sort of bot as member option. vBulletin is designed to specially address bots in terms of session variables and navigation -- and there's no reason to change that around. Furthermore, by using an image, there's no risk of an entire "catching" you for showing them different content and penalizing you for this activity.

But ultimately it's up to the admin.

Burley 05-19-2007 06:39 AM

Well like I said, just my 2 cents.
But you do have a few valid arguments :)

The Dane 05-19-2007 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by da420 (Post 1249860)

Thanks :)

Sometimes the solution is so easy you can not even see it :)

I got a picture there and I am now hoping for my serps to get back up :)


Thanks :)

Nokia Tech 05-20-2007 07:46 PM

Clicks INSTALL here

Just had a VB update done today, By Jelsoft. This is one of selection of cool hacks i have installed

Many thanks to the author for this..

Ted S 05-20-2007 10:16 PM

No problem.

AnnieZC 05-21-2007 03:40 AM

Thanks! Just installed and set up -- easy and quick!

aztecboi2003 05-24-2007 12:25 AM

I installed this on one of my little used skins and it works great. I want to use this on my main skin but the code is slightly different.

Instead of this

Code:

<if condition="$show['guest']">
<!-- guest welcome message -->
<tr>
<td class="tcat" colspan="<if condition="$vboptions['showmoderatorcolumn']">6<else />5</if>"><phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[welcome_to_the_x]</phrase></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="alt1" colspan="<if condition="$vboptions['showmoderatorcolumn']">6<else />5</if>">
<phrase 1="faq.php$session[sessionurl_q]" 2="register.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[first_visit_message]</phrase>
</td>
</tr>
<!-- / guest welcome message -->
</if>

I have this

Code:

<if condition="$show['guest']">
        <!-- guest welcome message -->
        <tr>
                <td class="tcat" colspan="<if condition="$vboptions['showmoderatorcolumn']">6<else />5</if>"><phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[welcome_to_the_x]</phrase></td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
                <td class="alt1" colspan="<if condition="$vboptions['showmoderatorcolumn']">6<else />5</if>">
                        <phrase 1="faq.php$session[sessionurl_q]" 2="register.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[first_visit_message]</phrase>
                </td>
        </tr>
        <!-- / guest welcome message -->
</table>
<div style="padding: 8px;"></div>
        </if>

Notice the <div style="padding: 8px;"></div> will it be okay to install and not mess anything up? Should I wait until like 3 am and test it when no one is using my forum?

Ted S 05-24-2007 12:52 AM

That div appears to be used to add spacing, removing it shouldn't be an issue as most of the headers add their own spacing already.

aztecboi2003 05-24-2007 12:59 AM

Okay thanks for the quick reply. I'll give it a shot on my main skin.

puertoblack2003 05-25-2007 01:00 AM

i'm curious and saw that the global announcement is included do i need the global announcement hack to get that to work? the way it looks to me the default one is useless to me how do i add announcement through this hack.

thanks in advance

Ted S 05-25-2007 01:14 AM

This hack has nothing to do with any other announcement hack. If you want to enable a global announcement, you can do so by turning this hack on from your vbulletin options and by changing the text for your announcement also through the options.

blackvborg 05-27-2007 04:18 PM

I've just installed the version Welcome Headers 4.2.1 on vb 3.6.7pl1 and I think there is a small bug:

I've registered to my board with a test account and I've not approved it. For some time I was able to see the message saying I was on approval, but after some time I started to see the message saying that I hadn't wrote any message yet. I think this behaviour is not correct because the user then tries to post but have another error saying it's not approved.

What do you think? IMO you should always show the message "on approval" until it gets approved.

Pearl 05-28-2007 06:26 AM

Nice work, thank you .

Ted S 05-29-2007 02:02 AM

Quote:

What do you think? IMO you should always show the message "on approval" until it gets approved.
That's what it does. The check for the approval usergroup comes first -- so long as the user is still in that group, that's the first message they will see.

carwash 05-30-2007 12:51 PM

Is there any way to hide these from google since they always show up in the description on search results?

Smitty 05-30-2007 01:39 PM

For AdSense:

<!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->

<header code>

<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

But if your guest can see it so can Google as far as I know.

Fireproof 05-30-2007 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carwash (Post 1257566)
Is there any way to hide these from google since they always show up in the description on search results?

You could use it to display an image with your text in it, and the spiders will look right past it (other than the alt tag which could be a few keywords. ;) )

skubaman 06-01-2007 05:38 PM

I am running version 4.1.3 and have just updated my Vbulletin to the latest 3.6.7 PL1 version. Do I need to do anything about the templates? I am getting a message that I have for templates that are not updated.
Thanks

Ted S 06-02-2007 07:13 AM

Nothing on the hack's end, no.

RedTyger 06-03-2007 02:02 PM

I'd definitely like to see the Guest message only displayed to those with cookies enabled, to avoid running into trouble with search engines. :)

Anyway, great stuff, thank you! I'm making use of the rest of it.

wolf32 06-03-2007 07:53 PM

Any way to keep the message from showing up on certain pages?

Ted S 06-03-2007 09:25 PM

You can use conditionals to exclude it from any page you like. Just edit the welcome_headers template (there are some examples to get you started).

wolf32 06-03-2007 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 1260611)
You can use conditionals to exclude it from any page you like. Just edit the welcome_headers template (there are some examples to get you started).

Why didn't I think of that :o....Thanks

unknowngiver 06-05-2007 08:30 PM

hm
for some reasons my guests see:

Code:

Welcome to the [ARG:3 UNDEFINED] forums.

Ted S 06-05-2007 11:32 PM

It sounds like you have yet to change the forumhome template.

txsbmw 06-06-2007 03:06 PM

I searched and did not pull up anything, but do you know that if you have a moderated usergroup and the 0 post welcome header is enabled it will not update that usergroups post count. I know weird, lol. Here is what I mean:

I have the default Registered Users group (all members get placed here upon registering). This group has it's posts moderated so we can catch Spammers. Once they have made 5 posts they are promoted to another usergroup that is not moderated.

Ok now if I enable the welcome header for those who have 0 posts. The posts do get moderated, BUT when you validate the post the users post count remains the same. You have to go to AdminCP ==> Maintenance ==> Update Counters ==> Update Post Count and run that to get it to reflect their correct post count.

Now how do I know it is this Mod doing this? Simple, the problem started as soon as I installed this mod. So for grins I set the Enable Never Posted Message to no and poof the user count for the moderated usergroup is working again correctly. I turn it back to yes and nope no longer working.

So any idea on a fix for this because I would really like to use it for those who have not posted to let them know what to do and that their posts are moderated for the first 5 posts!

unknowngiver 06-08-2007 02:08 AM

nvm everything works now..need 2 read more often :p lol

MMiz 06-11-2007 02:35 AM

Hi,

I tried searching, and it seems as though someone else had this problem, but a response/fix wasn't posted.

After fully uninstalling the old version of the hack, I resinstalled and put the snip under the navbar so it wouldn't cause a problem with vBSEO. Unfortunately there is now a space that I can't seem to get rid of. Webpage can be seen at: http://tinyurl.com/3c3ut.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Ted S 06-11-2007 02:41 AM

The template welcome_headers has lots of <br /> tags to add spacing; remove as desired.

MMiz 06-11-2007 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 1265922)
The template welcome_headers has lots of <br /> tags to add spacing; remove as desired.

I can't seem to get rid of all of the spaces, but at least I was able to even it out a bit. Thanks!

BadgerDog 06-11-2007 10:25 AM

I'm not sure what's happening, but I had a "guest" who registered and then he sent me an email saying I had two "Welcome" messages.

I had never checked before, so I logged out and viewed the forum as a "guest" and he's right. I also have the "Welcome" message I created from this mod, plus immediately underneath it I have this one?

Quote:

Welcome to the (edited out name) Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
This appears to be a default from vBulletin someplace?

Is there some way of stopping the default from appearing?

Thanks

Regards,
Badger

da420 06-11-2007 02:44 PM

The install file tells you how to remove the default vbulletin welcome message.

BadgerDog 06-11-2007 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by da420 (Post 1266286)
The install file tells you how to remove the default vbulletin welcome message.

Yes, thank you ... :)

I had done that on the original install, then when I upgraded to v3.6.7PL1, somehow it crept back into the template. I'm not sure why, but you are right on and that was the problem.... :)

Appreciate the feedback.... :up:

Regards,
Badger


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