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TFEX	06-08-2008 04:38 AM

It seems to be working fine for me in 3.7, no importing errors, but I am still configuring the adminCP options. They are there, however.

My questions are silly ones:

1. Where do I find the quiz id I need to enter?

2. What do I enter for a score? A percentage, or 10/10, etc.?

3. If a user fails, are they able to try again? Would be kind of silly if they were not.

4. Once the quiz is completed for a user, does it go away, or will they have to do it every time they enter the forum?

Thanks.

Alfa1

06-10-2008 12:18 AM

Yes, they are there, but there is no blockade for users. I can still access the forum, without entering any quiz. In fact I do not get anything that alerts to the existence of a quiz.

1. You can go to quiz.php and browse quizzes. quiz.php?do=Take&id=X where X is quizID.
2. Yes, a percentage.
3. I have no idea. I have not seen a function to stop retries. So I guess members cn try again and again. So multiple choice is not adviced.
4. So far they do not have to enter anything.

TFEX	06-10-2008 12:12 PM

Hey thanks for answering Alfa!

Great info, thanks for your help. I'm just not too clear on #4...

What I am looking for is for members to be able to enter the forum after they pass the quiz, without having to take it every time. Is there a flag that is set or something so that the forum remembers they have passed?

Ahh I'll test it out myself tonight and let you know. :) I'm ready to give it a go. My forum isn't live yet so I'll be sure to keep you updated on any issues I might have in 3.7, and maybe we can work them out together. I'm setting it up to quiz members on the specific rules for that particular forum, so I consider this hack ESSENTIAL, and I intend to make it work any way I can with my limited knowledge, haha.

TFEX	06-12-2008 11:52 PM

I apologize profusely, but I looked through the quiz.php and I do not find any mention of specific quiz id's. Shouldn't the quiz I import have the id somewhere in plain sight? This is getting frustrating now, I've been working on this hack for three days. I think I'll just scrap it and redesign my rules. Coders have great minds and come up with the most interesting things, but they're not very good at relating those things to regular people. This, for instance:

Quote:

p.s. If you want your users to have to pass the quiz before they can even read in your forum, copy the plugin code from newthread_start and create new plugins using forumdisplay_start and showthread_start as the hooks with the same source code.

Sure, no problem. Right after I design a better space shuttle for NASA, give me a few minutes.

Sadly, this could have been a great hack if it just had more user-friendly install and configuration options. I am bitterly disappointed, because I feel it's something my forum won't be able to do without.

Alfa1

06-13-2008 09:56 AM

You can find the quizID, by looking at the url. I know it is stupid to have to do it this way, but once you see it, it will be simple. For example:
- Browse to www.yoursite.com/forum/quiz.php
- Then select the category the quiz that you need the quizID from, is in. That url should look like this www.yoursite.com/forum/quiz.php?do=Cat&id=1
- Then select the quiz that you need the quizID from.
- This url should look like:
www.yoursite.com/forum/quiz.php?do=Take&id=1
In my example above '1' is the quizID. Please take a look at your url and note down your quizID.

TFEX	06-13-2008 08:03 PM

Ok so I knocked that one off, thanks again, now I am getting (what appears to be standard from reading the other posts) the "cannot find phrase 'quiz_not_taken'" error.

I created the phrase and assigned it to the product "Must pass quiz to start", but no results. I saw others were having this problem, but there was no solution offered by the coder. Have you managed to figure this one out?

I altered the plugin code from this:

Code:

eval(standard_error(fetch_error('quiz_not_taken',

to this:

Code:

eval(standard_error(fetch_error($vbphrase[quiz_not_taken],

which changed the error message to this:

Quote:

Could not find phrase 'You have not yet taken the quiz to enter this forum. You must do so in order to access it.'.

which is the phrase I assigned to the variable.

I am not very proficient at this so I can only assume I am doing something wrong here. I am so close I can taste it though. Any other suggestions?

Alfa1

06-13-2008 09:20 PM

People will be able to enter the forum, even if they do not pass the quiz.
They will not be able to post if they do not pass.

It seems that there is only a reference to the phrase, but not the phrase itself. The only phrase that this mod seems to add, is quizID prase.

quiz_failed is also not there.
Maybe these phrases once where in Inferno Quiz.

TFEX	06-14-2008 12:25 AM

Quote:

People will be able to enter the forum, even if they do not pass the quiz.
They will not be able to post if they do not pass.

Yeah I gathered that already from this:

Quote:

Although I have no idea how to go about implementing it... it will be the hurdle I undertake after I get it working.

Quote:

It seems that there is only a reference to the phrase, but not the phrase itself. The only phrase that this mod seems to add, is quizID prase.

quiz_failed is also not there.
Maybe these phrases once where in Inferno Quiz.

Interesting, so what you are saying is you've never solved the issue then? I'll have a look for those references in the plugin code and see what removing them altogether accomplishes, or possibly changing the reference to whatever similar phrase is currently used in Inferno. Would seem like the next logical step to take...

TFEX	06-14-2008 01:09 AM

Ok there seems to be a problem with this code in Amy's plugin:

Code:

else 

                {



                        eval(standard_error(fetch_error('quiz_failed', $foruminfo['score'], "<a href='quiz.php?do=Take&id=".$foruminfo[quizid]."'>$quizinfo[q_name]</a>")));   

                }

        }

        else

        {

          

    eval(standard_error(fetch_error('quiz_not_taken', $foruminfo['score'], "<a href='quiz.php?do=Take&id=".$foruminfo[quizid]."'>$quizinfo[q_name]</a>")));  

        }

}

Now I am not sure if it's her code or Inferno's yet, so I am going to remove everything and re-install inferno from the ground up using the xml import and making all the necessary mods to the code for 3.7, essentially make sure it works beyond a doubt, and then I'll throw the plugin back in to see what happens. Shouldn't take long, I'll get back to ya.

TFEX	06-14-2008 03:23 AM

OK, well I have managed to get it to work, as in I can set a quiz id to the forum and I get denied posting access, and after I take that particular quiz I can post no problem. What I am having difficulty with is getting the plugin to find the phrases we've been talking about. Once it finds them ok, I can edit them to say whatever I like, even point directly to the quiz if I want.

I edited the xml file for the plugin and added the phrases in there, uninstalled and re-imported, and it puts the phrases into the phrase manager, but the code in the plugin is still not pointing to them correctly. So basically I have confirmed what I said above, that there is a problem with those lines in the code. In particular, these parts of the lines:

Code:

eval(standard_error(fetch_error('quiz_not_taken',

same goes for the "quiz_failed" line.

Here is where my limited knowledge comes into play, as I do not know how to alter those lines to point to the proper phrase, ie "$vbphrase[quiz_not_taken]" So far my attempts have produced mixed results from the standard error:

Quote:

test, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

to the one I mentioned before:

Quote:

Could not find phrase 'You have not yet taken the quiz to enter this forum. You must do so in order to access it.'.

Which is actually pretty close to what I want, minus the "Could not find phrase" of course...

I do not really need the plugin to jump right to the quiz, just to the phrase, and I can direct users to the quiz from there. Any suggestions? I was thinking the entire lines need to be reworked and the error references taken right out, replaced with something that simply directs users to that particular phrase. I will keep going, at least I am making some progress here. :)

Alfa1

06-14-2008 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFEX (Post 1548830)

Interesting, so what you are saying is you've never solved the issue then?

No, I did not encounter the issue before, since I did not get the result I expected: to deny forum access to members that have not passed the test.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFEX (Post 1548897)

I do not really need the plugin to jump right to the quiz, just to the phrase, and I can direct users to the quiz from there. Any suggestions? I was thinking the entire lines need to be reworked and the error references taken right out, replaced with something that simply directs users to that particular phrase. I will keep going, at least I am making some progress here. :)

Yes, I agree. Since the phrases are nowhere to be found in the templates, I worked through the code of the inferno quiz php files, but as expected there is nothing in there either. It seems that Amy forgot a part of the code.
If we could find a code that just shows a text message, then that would work for me. I am not in need of any translations or phrases. This would also make it easy to include a hyperlink to the related quiz.

I have been trying different code, in a trial and error sort of way, but not much luck until now.

I just added the same plugin to the hook newthread_start and that 'works' in exactly the same manner as the existing plugins: it gives the same error. So I guess that if this error is solved, it will work.

TFEX	06-14-2008 03:23 PM

I solved the missing phrase issue.

When you manually create the phrase ('quiz_not_taken' or 'quiz_failed'), the "Phrase Type" field must be set as "Error Messages" rather than "GLOBAL". I did this and all "Could not find phrase" errors were gone, and the correct phrases showed up.

However, I still cannot get it to direct to the quiz id itself (the rest of the code in the line, I am assuming). Here is the code again:

Code:

eval(standard_error(fetch_error('quiz_not_taken', $foruminfo['score'], "<a href='quiz.php?do=Take&id=".$foruminfo[quizid]."'>$quizinfo[q_name]</a>")));

So this is the part I need to look at now:

Code:

$foruminfo['score'], "<a href='quiz.php?do=Take&id=".$foruminfo[quizid]."'>$quizinfo[q_name]</a>"

I can put a link to the quiz in the phrase translation of course, but I have two different forums requiring quizzes, and I need to set a different quiz for each forum. This solution would only allow me to direct users to one quiz for all forums.

Again, progress :)

I'll keep at it.

TFEX	06-14-2008 04:00 PM

I can insert

Code:

<a href='quiz.php?do=Take&id=".$foruminfo[quizid]."'>$quizinfo[q_name]</a>

into the phrase translation and it provides a link to quiz.php, but the variables '.$foruminfo[quizid].' and '$quizinfo[q_name]' are not resolving. So I get to the quiz page, but it tells me on the right side (in the actual quiz area) that the quiz does not exist. I can still find the quiz from that point and take it though by flipping through the right-hand column.

TFEX	06-14-2008 06:25 PM

Well since I can still set a certain quiz id as the requirement for the forum, I think I am going to stop obsessing over the re-directs and do a band-aid solution... just insert a link into the phrases that points to the category the quizzes are in, and be specific in the quiz descriptions so the users know which one to take when they get there. Too much else to do so I am drawing the line on this one, at least it works to an extent, so I can use it.

Just remember after you import the product:

go to the phrase manager and add the phrases "quiz_not_taken" and "quiz_failed". Be sure to add them as the phrase type "Error Messages".

edit the phrase translations to include your message, and point to wherever your quiz or category is located.

you can find the quiz ID, for the quiz you want to enter in the forum manager, by browsing to it through your forums and looking in your address bar for "do=Take&id=2" Where "2" is the quiz ID

the "minimum acceptable score" field must be a percentage. I entered "100", but enter whatever you like.

I've tested it, and the requirement does disappear after you pass the quiz. I have not tested the failing option yet though, but I imagine it is ok as well, I'll post again if it isn't.

Thanks so much for all your help Alfa1. Let's hope someone updates these mods, I'll be looking forward to it.

TFEX	06-14-2008 09:02 PM

Here we go again. For some reason, all of a sudden, it doesn't recognize that I have passed the quiz. It appears there may be a problem with this:

Code:

if($foruminfo['score'] <= $quiztaken['r_score'])

or, more to the point this:

Code:

$quiztaken['r_score']

Everything works great except if I pass the quiz I keep getting re-prompted to take it when I attempt to post a thread.

I does recognize when I have failed the quiz, however.

I looked for the phrase r_score and found nothing, as usual. Feels good to be doing someone else's work for them, especially when I have no clue what I am doing. Here I thought I was going to be running a forum, not coding one. If I cannot fix this I am going to suggest that this hack be sent to the graveyard, and I'm going to avoid any of amy's hacks from now on. They have, so far, wasted 4 days of my time, and it appears they are going to continue to do so.

Alfa1

06-14-2008 09:15 PM

Yes, too have what I need. A link to the correct quiz would be nice, but the band-aid solution will do as well.

Here are my phrases:

PHP Code:


		
			
You have not passed the quiz, needed to enter this forum.
<br>You need to prove your knowledge first
<br><br>
<a href="quiz.php?do=Cat&id=1">Click here to take the quiz. </a>

PHP Code:


		
			
You have not taken the quiz, needed to enter this forum.
<br>You need to prove your knowledge first
<br><br>
<a href="quiz.php?do=Cat&id=1">Click here to take the quiz. </a>

ThanX TFEX.

EDIT: I saw your post too late. I am currently wrestling with this in another way: once the quiz is taken, it does not let the user take it again. Thus leaving the member shut out of the forum. (if a mistake is made with the quiz)

In relation to your problem: I cant help but notice that there is a problem with $foruminfo['score'] again.
Anyway: go to styles and templates -> search in templates
Then search for 'r_score'
You will land in the template quiz_leaderboard_row

PHP Code:


		
			
{$gData['r_score']}

quiz.php is full with references to r_score:

PHP Code:


		
			
    // Insert Results
    $DB->query("insert into ".TABLE_PREFIX."quiz_results
    (`r_data`,`r_userid`,`r_score`,`r_forquiz`)
    values
    ('".addslashes(serialize($Answers))."',".$vbulletin->userinfo['userid'].",$Overall,$Quiz[qid])");

PHP Code:


		
			
        // Get All The Results
        $Get_Results = $DB->query("
        select u.username,
        r.r_userid,r.r_score
        from ".TABLE_PREFIX."quiz_results r
        left join ".TABLE_PREFIX."user u on(u.userid=r.r_userid)
        where r.r_forquiz = '{$Quiz['qid']}'
        ");

PHP Code:


		
			
        while($Result = $DB->fetch_array($Get_Results)){
        $Results[] = "<a href='quiz.php?$session[sessionurl]do=UserStat&userid={$Result['r_userid']}&id={$Quiz['qid']}'>{$Result['username']}</a>";
        $Average   += $Result['r_score'];
        $Done++;
        }

TFEX	06-14-2008 09:40 PM

I've come to the conclusion that half of this hack is missing, the rest is badly neglected and/or poorly written, and it's not worth wasting your time on. Trust me, I've wasted plenty of mine, and I am finished.

My recommendation to anyone wanting something like this, is to post a request in the "Requests for Paid Services" forum. I doubt you will get much of a response though since Inferno Quiz is no longer supported either.

If I avoided this hack in the first place, I would be much farther ahead than I am now. Please move it to the graveyard whoever, it is utterly useless.

TFEX	06-14-2008 09:45 PM

Alfa your problem with users being shut out is solved here

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...=83130&page=38

have a look at the last post. I wish you the best of luck, I am done with this, my kids miss me, and I am getting nowhere after 4 days. One gong-show after another. Save yourself the time.

Alfa1

06-14-2008 10:44 PM

Many thanks for that solution!

I cant reproduce the error you are getting. I have tried it with various accounts and settings, but it seems that it works for me. Please check your quiz results and settings.

TFEX	06-14-2008 11:33 PM

holy tunnel-vision batman.

It works for me as well now. I had forgotten that the forum I am using it on does not allow registered users to post new threads, only reply to them. The answer was in my forum permissions. As soon as I logged in as admin and posted a thread for my test account to reply to, everything was green. I am going to run through it all again just to be sure. I WILL post the results and we'll know beyond a doubt that this hack is useable or not.

TFEX	06-15-2008 12:00 AM

Ok I re-tested and the fail option works fine, but I still get stuck in a loop after that, meaning every time I go to reply to a thread I get told I have not yet passed the quiz... yada yada

Seems this is a result of the results from all of "test's" tries remaining in the moderation queue. I would like to bypass this altogether anyhow, and it is an inferno issue, not for this hack. I believe we are done here... I might have said that before though... :)

I believe I also said one gong-show after another... I hold to this.

Chadi

07-19-2008 09:10 PM

Option is showing up mixed in with Goldbrick mod. Can you please fix this or explain how to fix this?

This of course is in the forum manager area

Alfa1

07-20-2008 12:31 PM

This mod is unsupported. Your best bet would be to contact the coder of the goldbrick mod and ask if he can provide a fix.

joh	10-29-2008 01:38 AM

would this work in 3.8 ?

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