Bingo!
And let this, ladies and gentlemen, be an example of how not to run your message board, if you realize that the members make your message board, not you.

As I've stated in another thread, this is why the requests forum needs more moderation.

If people's requests were marked as already made, resolved or in development, there would be no NEED to bump these modification request threads.

Bumping in itself is not a problem, it is a symptom of unsorted requests the modification request forum gets.

There is also the problem of user impatience ;)

Satan

Question;

Do people have a problem with the automerge of posts, or just the fact that it doesn't update the timestamp of the post ?

Personally I like the automerge, but dislike the fact that the timestamp is not updated.

Updating the Timestamp would defeat the anti-bump purpose, wouldn't it?

If the auto-merge was only active in request / non-discussion forums then it would be better, but it barely affects me :)

Satan

Hello.

I'm new to this 'automerge' feature.

I created a thread asking for help. Someone responded with good suggestions, yet I didn't totally understand how to implement them. I stated this in my reply to that person.

Approx. 22 hrs later, I had another idea that I wanted to present that didn't involve creating another table as the responder suggested in one of his/her suggestions. I had this idea before that person or another responded.

Because of automerge, they nor anyone else will probably respond...wow, what a shame...

This is a disappointing... :disappointed:

Auto merge is pretty much why I won't seek any info on the inner workings of vBulletin at this site. It is freekin anoying and makes me just say screwed it and abandon the thread. I pretty much only post in the hack forums now. It's one thing when people treat you poorly. But when a bot spits in your face, that's a whole other problem for me.

Congratulations. I must say I have never in my entire life read a more ridiculous post. What that post can be boiled down to is "I don't like the auto merge because a bot edits my post." Wtf? If you are going to make a fool out of yourself like this, at least post a REASON, like the poster above you. Not saying his point is any more valid, but at least he TRIED.
One word for you mate: Bullsh*t.
If that someone didn't respond, odds are he didn't read your reply in the first place. Or perhaps you can prove that he *did* read it? Hm? Didn't think so.

it does get annoying some times...
keep the automerge -- just make it smarter

When somebody posts a message, email notices are sent to those subscribed to that thread. Now, if that same poster goes back to edit that same message ten minutes later, all those people who received email notices won't find out that something was changed, added, or deleted unless they happen to re-read the same message again once they come back here to visit the site.

The flow of discussion in that thread could quite easily have continued on to another page by this time. Most folks don't scroll back far enough to re-read all the messages they're already familiar with, so they read on from the point in the conversation where they left off. The result of this being... that a good number of people don't find out later that the original content has changed.

If this has never been a problem when messages are edited on purpose, why is it such an issue now when subsequent posts have been automerged?

And how often do people read the email and post within 10 minutes?

There is no way to make it smarter really - It works on a time limit...

If you make it so that it doesn't do it for quoted posts (for example) people will just abuse the system...

There may be a way to send an email update on an auto-merge :ermm:

Chris

I despise auto-merging with a vengeance. Anyone who likes it should be tied down and have pins inserted into their feet.

As a forum feature, I like it. I don't like how it's implemented here.

Revan,

I'm sorry you missed my point. That person who replied to my post gave me some good suggestions from his perspective. I thought of another after his ideas gave me an idea for which I am very appreciative. But because of the automerge in this particular case, there is not good way to let him know that he ultimately helped me more than I knew initially without sending him a PM or E-mail.

I do understand the purpose of automerge and I may even use it in the future for my forum, but it will be at least a minimum of say, 12 hrs, maybe more, because I want the discussion to continue when my members get new ideas and other breakthroughs. This type of discussion continuation has worked for me on other forums which ultimately even got others involved and it was GREAT!

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion and I am to mine.

Let the discussions continue within a reasonable time limit before automerge kicks in, is all I'm saying.

Try not to get too emotional...its just automerge... :squareeyed:

how do i add automerge onto my forums? is it a hack? I need this badly.

Cheers

Search for Xenon, and you will see a 3.5 version in his list of hacks :)

Chris

<a href="https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?threadid=96602" target="_blank">https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showt...threadid=96602</a>

I mostly agree with Paul, although I think it should be implemented here BUT, perhaps change it to a figure like 12 hours rather then 24.

I did understand your point, and MY point is that had he read the thread, he would have replied with "np, feel free to contact me if you have any further questions" or something like that, which is common for helpful people to do.
Therefore I don't believe he read your reply.
And in the event of him HAVING read the reply and didnt bother to reply with above, he wouldnt care if you sent him a PM either.

Revan,

I again see your point and I've made mine. Let's just agree to disagree somewhat, of course, not totally since I understand from both sides.

I've been on many forums and have helped many people and v.v. and oops, I guess I forgot to add to each of them 'feel free to contact me'. Somehow, I don't remember any replies that said that to me, either as I've always taken it to be implied as warranted. I'm fine with it this way (requires less typing, too).

If I find you have something I may be able to assist you with, which I don't mind, let me tell you in advance, if I don't say 'feel free to contact me', it's "implied..."

Take care.