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scottct1 03-31-2004 01:03 AM

Perhaps it could be written so it pulls the information from the database, and if the database info is more then say 15 minutes old then it hits the SigmaChat server for an updated list.

SVTBlackLight01 03-31-2004 01:09 AM

Actually, I was just thinking about that. In the end, I don't think it would be worth the trouble, but there may be a work around.

gc1 03-31-2004 01:41 AM

Works great, thanks for sharing

NS_007 03-31-2004 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gc1
Works great, thanks for sharing

Anyone else having users who can't log in any more? When they click the links they are only getting white screen?

If so, did you find a solution? And could you please post the solution?

sross 03-31-2004 06:58 AM

Hi I'm having problems, I installed per instructions but when I click my chatlink, appears to autologon -that's fine- but then it fails saying invalid user. i know my paths are right to the auth file, hmm :(

Grim77 03-31-2004 02:32 PM

Hi -- Is the remote authentication system enabled, or are you using SigmaChat's built in user database? If you're using the built-in database, autologin will not work with password protected accounts...

Quote:

Originally Posted by sross
Hi I'm having problems, I installed per instructions but when I click my chatlink, appears to autologon -that's fine- but then it fails saying invalid user. i know my paths are right to the auth file, hmm :(


sross 03-31-2004 06:34 PM

well i got a little further, it did login my account which is admin user, but when I logged off, shutdown the browser, went back and logged in as a regular member it didn't autologin. I'm pretty sure everything is set right. I'll check the group id's again..

SVTBlackLight01 03-31-2004 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim77
Hi -- Is the remote authentication system enabled, or are you using SigmaChat's built in user database? If you're using the built-in database, autologin will not work with password protected accounts...


I think a list of settings that affect this hack and what they need to be set to would be helpful. I was having the same problem as well, and after playing with all the settings for a good while, I found out it was being caused by the remote authentication system.

Grim77 03-31-2004 08:44 PM

I tried to make this all clear in step #9 in the installation...
Quote:

Also, if you're using the authentication script in conjunction with the automatic login feature (as set in chat_global.php) we strongly recommend setting the Exit URL in your SigmaChat control panel to the URL of your forum system. When the automatic login is used in combination with the authentication script, you can only login to your chat room from your vBulletin system during the automatic login as password authentication is special for this type of set up. You can find the Exit URL setting in the "Web Sites" -> "Settings" section of your SigmaChat control panel.
Basically, when the auto-login is used with remote auth, the password is sent through the applet md5 encoded, and the authenticator does a simple byte for byte comparison with the VB database..

sross 03-31-2004 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim77
I tried to make this all clear in step #9 in the installation...


Basically, when the auto-login is used with remote auth, the password is sent through the applet md5 encoded, and the authenticator does a simple byte for byte comparison with the VB database..

ok i found the problem, i think. seems ok now. It looks like the group id's have to be in sequential order. I had 2,7,5 and when changed to 2,5,7 seemes to be working now. yay

admiralapril 04-01-2004 02:39 AM

Does SigmaChat work in Mozilla and Mozilla Firefox? I use IE and it works fine, but trying it in those other browsers didn't work. it didn't get any further than 'Loading... please wait'.

SVTBlackLight01 04-01-2004 02:59 AM

It works for me in Mozilla Firefox.

Grim77 04-01-2004 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admiralapril
Does SigmaChat work in Mozilla and Mozilla Firefox? I use IE and it works fine, but trying it in those other browsers didn't work. it didn't get any further than 'Loading... please wait'.

Yes, absolutely. We've tested it using MSIE/Win32, MSIE/OS-X, Netscape (all JVM supported platforms), Mozilla, Safari, Opera, just to name a few. Basically any web browser with a modern Java Virtual Machine will run it. Make sure you've got the latest JVM from The Java Website :)

NS_007 04-01-2004 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim77
Yes, absolutely. We've tested it using MSIE/Win32, MSIE/OS-X, Netscape (all JVM supported platforms), Mozilla, Safari, Opera, just to name a few. Basically any web browser with a modern Java Virtual Machine will run it. Make sure you've got the latest JVM from The Java Website :)

hmmm Chris, do my chatters also need to have JVM installed to run it?

So far I have been unable to find a common thread for those who can not get in chat and only see the white screen. *sigh*

I just don't understand why some can get in and some can't.

Also, if I go back to my old AAS, will the newer who's chatting layout still work? Or do I still need to use the old one for that as well?

Grim77 04-01-2004 01:18 PM

Yes, you need to have Java installed to use the software. If that doesn't work, send me a link to your site and I'll take a look.

You should be able to drop in any AAS script you'd like in place of chat_auth.php -- just make sure you disable the auto-login within chat_global.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NS_007
hmmm Chris, do my chatters also need to have JVM installed to run it?

So far I have been unable to find a common thread for those who can not get in chat and only see the white screen. *sigh*

I just don't understand why some can get in and some can't.

Also, if I go back to my old AAS, will the newer who's chatting layout still work? Or do I still need to use the old one for that as well?


NS_007 04-01-2004 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim77
Yes, you need to have Java installed to use the software. If that doesn't work, send me a link to your site and I'll take a look.

You should be able to drop in any AAS script you'd like in place of chat_auth.php -- just make sure you disable the auto-login within chat_global.

Well all swear they have java. *shrugs*

Hmm so if I go back to the old chat_auth.php and change the autologin in the chat_global.php, all will still work??

admiralapril 04-01-2004 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim77
Yes, absolutely. We've tested it using MSIE/Win32, MSIE/OS-X, Netscape (all JVM supported platforms), Mozilla, Safari, Opera, just to name a few. Basically any web browser with a modern Java Virtual Machine will run it. Make sure you've got the latest JVM from The Java Website :)

Thank you so much! Downloading the latest Java software fixed the problem. :)

Grim77 04-02-2004 04:38 AM

It should -- chat_auth.php isn't really tied to anything else. Why do you want to use a different authentication script if you don't mind my asking?

Quote:

Originally Posted by NS_007
Hmm so if I go back to the old chat_auth.php and change the autologin in the chat_global.php, all will still work??


mharmon 04-05-2004 01:12 AM

I'm getting an "uncached templates" error when the chat page comes up. How can I fix this?

Bryan Ex 04-05-2004 05:19 AM

Okay Chris... been following this discussion for a little while and am now ready to purchase a chat app for my site. If I understand things correctly the sigma chat integration with VB3 uses current usernames for the login process but does not indicate whether the room is being used or by how many at any given point? I'm not concerned about listing actually users as part of the added who's online module but just a simple number of users. For example, in the nav bar I would like a link to chat followed by the number of active users - Chat (7). 100 hits for who's online would be used up in no time flat on my site simply from people being nosey and really isn't worth the extra billing to me. For that matter... even a small status icon indicating it's being used at all would work nicely - similar to the online indicators on this message board.

Mickie D 04-05-2004 02:31 PM

thanks for this hack i clicked install great hack :)

all the other chat irc hacks half of my members could get in half could not :(

this one is great and i will probably pay $75 if it goes well :)

i agree about the users chatting.

basicly i have a link like this to my chat under my header

LIVE CHAT CLICK HERE

but i would like to have

CURRENTLY {1} USER(s) CHATTING CLICK HERE TO JOIN

or something like that on my forum home template ?

is this possible and thanks again

Mickie D 04-05-2004 02:49 PM

i should have read bryans post above mine :) lol

i want exactly what he said and he said it alot clearer :)

Bryan Ex 04-05-2004 03:02 PM

Here's an example of what I'm after from my old forum using a simple java chat script. The actual users where never listed... just the number of people using chat and it worked extremely well at promoting the chat room usage.

Grim77 04-05-2004 04:37 PM

It looks as though a lot of people would like their main forum page to indicate how many users are online, or in some cases, show their names.. Regardless of whether or not you show each and every username in the chat, or just show the amount of users, a Who's Online Module 'hit' is consumed. Shortly, I'm going to be working on someone elses site to do something just like this. In order to minimize the quick usage of Who's Online hits (and keep from saturating RaiderSoft's servers) we'll need to figure out a way to set up a simple cron so the data is only updated every 5 or 10 minutes or so (or however the end user would like it set up) Either way, it looks like a version 1.1 is in order, and I'll be getting started on it shortly. I'll send out an update as soon as it's online! Thanks for all the great comments and suggestions!

Eladesor 04-05-2004 05:59 PM

Clicked Install:
My members love it:)
Thank you - your efforts are appreciated.

Bryan Ex 04-05-2004 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim77
It looks as though a lot of people would like their main forum page to indicate how many users are online, or in some cases, show their names.

Chris... because of this response I have just subscribed to your platnium service today. If you should need any testing done by all means I'd be happy to help out in any way possible.

Bryan Ex 04-05-2004 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim77
we'll need to figure out a way to set up a simple cron so the data is only updated every 5 or 10 minutes or so

Hmmm... if this is still to be part of the extra billed who's online module would it not require a subscriber to purchase 4320+ hits per month to work? Just so I'm clear on your intentions... will a simply "In use" indicator be available instead of the complete list of active users?

mharmon 04-05-2004 08:31 PM

I will help out in any way also.... My users LOVE this chat .. and I want to add the same "Who's Chatting" functionality to my main page.

Grim77 04-06-2004 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Ex
Hmmm... if this is still to be part of the extra billed who's online module would it not require a subscriber to purchase 4320+ hits per month to work? Just so I'm clear on your intentions... will a simply "In use" indicator be available instead of the complete list of active users?

Hi Bryan -- regardless of whether or not we show the entire list, just the user amount, or a simple "in use" indicator, the Who's Online Module is used. The advantage of having a Platinum/Enterprise account is that these accounts are provided a daily stipend of hits to allow for a once/10 minutes check on the module without having to pay extra.

Bryan Ex 04-06-2004 03:39 PM

Sounds perfect Chris. Sigmachat Platinum is up and running on my site now and I'm looking forward to the update.

Entourage 04-06-2004 05:16 PM

/me click and install! tnx!

running smooth here, just hope that Who's Chatting" functionality wil come soon.

Mickie D 04-06-2004 11:08 PM

i might be able to think up something for the whos chatting number should not be to tuff let me get my book of functions out lol

Grim77 04-07-2004 01:41 AM

Hmm.. might not be the best place to post this, but anybody have any resources for creating an install script for VB3 hacks? I could do it manually for this by talking directly to the database and with some simple regular expressions, but was hoping for something a little bit more clean. (?) I think I spent most of my time working on the HTML instruction page for this hack, rather than the actual mod code which is something I'd really like to avoid in the next release. So far, and this is from memory so correct me if I'm wrong, the suggestions people are looking for for the v1.1 release are:

1. Ability to show list of who is chatting (or, optionally, the number of chatters) from the main forum page with specified update interval.
2. Option for Quick Links link to Chat Room
3. Enhancements to authentication script so that the chat room can be used both in auto-login mode, and on other pages not making use of auto-login.
4. Self installer
5. Control panel interface for chat settings (hmm, anybody know of any resources for this too?)
6. Interfaces for the SigmaChat "User List Integration" feature

-Chris

Bryan Ex 04-07-2004 01:44 AM

Not sure if you are aware of this option Chris... or even if it would help but just in case;

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=60735

mharmon 04-07-2004 02:47 AM

Chris --

Could you also make it so you could incorporate this on a NON-VB page... I want to post the chatroom on my main site -- would be a big help if you could do this..

Thanks

Bryan Ex 04-07-2004 03:02 AM

I think item #3 has that one covered actually.

accyroy 04-08-2004 03:26 PM

Excellent integration. I've just signed up for the pro version!

A feature I would love with this would be to have opening times for the chat room. I don't get that many chatroomers and so having set times that the chat is open would be better....

Preech 04-08-2004 06:03 PM

Only if us Professional Sigma chat owners could use our database for members to login.

kyrnel 04-08-2004 07:44 PM

Installed, my members love it. I can't wait to be able to display how many users are in chat from my main page.

Bryan Ex 04-14-2004 06:23 PM

Btw Chris... this is all I'm really looking to do with the chat in use indicator. Just a little something to show it's being used without having to dig into menus to find out.


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