Can't wait :)

An automatic system for patching files on the server for you (ie. you don't have to edit files yourself) is planned for a distant, future release. However, this will be an optional thing, and limited to certain server setups only.

For the time being, once HTL comes out you can all use the system to the fullest extent and that should suit most, if not all, of your needs already. :)

since rc2 is out, is this not released?

Nope. My original planning as explained in earlier posts no longer holds because it took Jelsoft too long to release Gamma and subsequently RC1. Because of their delay in that, I was on holiday by the time they did, and only after jan. 15th can I continue my work from before, that is, finishing the HTL and all..

Sorry :( But I'm still on holiday, more or less, until the 15th, so it'll be after then somewhere. Hopefully before the end of January though. :)

Kura if your doing it im very sure its worth the wait :)

Thanks Faranth :) *blush*

i found a beta copy of it on my harddrive yesterday ;D

I STRONGLY recommend you don't bother installing that beta copy, though. I've built in SOME upgrade & patching mechanisms and routines into the HTL Installer file, but I'm not sure if it'll still work fine. I've made a TON of database changes since the last beta copy I've handed out (which was 0.45 or so?).

kura you dont thihnk id be that stupid ;D

i got like the first copy you handed out :) just sorta remembering the old days, i got all my vB files togther and was just being umm whats that word nostolgic?

Awesome idea :) Too bad I have to wait until later this month.

It's Def. Worth the wait from what i can see.

Nostalgic :p

Anyways, if you need some beta testers or whatnot, Kura, I'm here and ready to help :D

Good news!

I've upgraded from Beta 7 to RC2 last night. So far, the HTL seems to work very decently with RC2. The fixed-width vB3 style from Gamma and higher causes some minor display issues with the Front-end of the Hack Tracking Log, but those are mere HTML issues and will be resolved today. Also, today I shall do test runs of the .xml and .htl generators and all related functions (used for installing new hacks) to see how well RC2 works with what I had working. I don't expect many problems to arise from this.

Additionally, I've finished three new sections entirely: List All Modifications; Import Hack Phrases; Remove Hack Phrases. These three new functions are a blessing for development of a hack, as well as upgrading a hacked up vBulletin board. I upgraded last night without a problem (well, I had some problems but those were not related to any of this, but to my internet connection), re-applied my hacks and updated my Hacks' data (file-edits' line numbers had changed cos RC2's files are bigger), and it took like... 8 minutes or so. It was a bliss. I'm definitely not ever going to install a non-HTL hack, that's for sure. Any hack that is released without a .htl file, I'll just make an HTL installer for it and ask the hack author if he would like to add that to his Hack thread. HTL hacks really make your life easier.. :D

Anyhoo, back to testing HTL stuff.... ^_^

Looking forward to it. :)

so i should contintue to prod you with a stick in irc? ok

/me prods Kura with his 10 foot clown poll

Did I miss anything or has the HTL not been released, yet?
I found no place where I could have downloaded it...

i was part of Kura's beta testers ;D it will be released soon however :)

It's not finished yet, so yeah you can't download it yet. :)

Sounds really sweet! Thank you for all of your hard work. This sounds like something that will help the whole community!

Let's hope so :)

sounds useful, i look forward to trying it out Kura, if it is more of a help than a nusance i will keep using it, but things similar to this in the past were more of nusances than help, so lets hope this aint like those :)

the nature of vB3 has made sure that the HTL is definitely of help, rather than a nuisance.

There's just too many complicated things in vB3 that the HTL makes easy again...

Would you expect "soon" to be < 1 week / 1-2 weeks / 3-4 weeks / more ? :squareeyed:

Sorry, couldn't resist!

LOL, touche! :)

In my case, "soon" seems to be something like 1-2 weeks right now. :)

HURRY:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=60418

ive been waiting long enuf :D

Well, tonight I finished the Hack Tracking Log. The Documentation is not yet done, however, which is why there is no real release just yet. What I did do, though, was release a private beta for a select few people (those who were lucky enough to be online and see my thread / be in IRC).

The response from the private beta, so far, has been amazingly great. After fixing a stupid caching error on my computer that caused the Zipfile to contain one wrong (outdated) file, the installation went pretty much smooth as silk for everyone (except M|th who still had an old file somehow, even after uploading the new zipfile *shrugs*). I've already received many compliments, the first impressions are that it all looks and feels very professional, and that it seems to work excellent.

The options for some things managed to make sure that everyone's needs and desires were met, and so far those who have installed and tested it while I was still around on IRC seemed very content. It became apparent, though, that the Documentation is definitely needed, and also that the HTL is not so incredibly intuitive that one can use it without reading anything on the pages (*cough* ;)).

There was one real bug found, which was trivial to say the least. There was a tiny problem with the display of replacement words inside phrases (without having them be replaced, that is). However, this is already fixed (and all beta testers have received mail about it that explains to them how to fix it) so the Official release will not suffer from this.
I'm going to sleep now, maybe tomorrow I will hear that there are more bugs found in the HTL. But then again, maybe, just maybe, my thorough testing has been sufficient, and no further bugs are found. I'll know in the morning. For now, I'm going to bed feeling rather content - the HTL has been publicized, albeit very limited still, and the first responses were all very positive. I feel strengthened in my belief that I can provide something extremely useful to this community, and hopefully the full release will be within a few days and everyone can enjoy this already successful Hack! :)

Cheers,
KuraFire

I love it!

So far I've converted my Now Playing Hack to HTL and it rocks!

**Yawn** Well enough of the updates and everything and release it ;) Such a tease

i usualy prefer to install hacks in the old way. Cos if i ... destroy something i can curse me...but if a "installer" destroy someting... it's bad :)

I have created a XLS (excel file) where i have writte what files i have modify and what hack, so when i will do an upgrade to a newer version of vBulletin i will know what hacks i RE-need to put back in the files.

How HTL will help me managing my hacks ?

I did not get in on the beta hack (darn my not coming here...), but the basics that I understand of the pics and info that KuraFire provided is:

- The HTL will not do any file changes (and possibly template *changes*, but I couldn't find a definite on that one in the post)
- The HTL will import any new phrases and phrase groups needed for the hack
- The HTL will import any new templates needed for the hack
- The HTL will contain all information for each HTL hack installed / pseudo installed needed to "re-install" for upgrades

So, to answer your question, it would be similar to your Excel file, but available through the Admin CP of your forums and a whole lot more helpful and cool... ;)

And much more powerful, too. The HTL can do a variety of things that your Excel sheet cannot possibly provide for.

Think of:

• at-will importing/exporting of a Hack's phrases;
• automatically generating the menu items for larger Hacks (prevents many future file edits);
• automatically creating template groups for Hacks (prevents many future file edits);
• Importing all phrases, templates and settings for a hack (during Installation);
• giving a complete and easy-to-access overview for all changes a Hack makes (new/modified files, templates, settinggroups, db tables, db columns);
• Keeping track of not only file- and template modifications, but also of all phrases a Hack inserts, all queries it runs, the custom php code it runs, etc. etc. etc.
• ...and more :)

The Hack Tracking Log will not do any automatic file- and template edits. You will have to modify your files and your templates manually.

This is because most people (by far) prefer to do file- and template edits manually, but nobody will want to manually add 250 phrases or 40 templates, and that's where the HTL comes in. :)


I'm sorry about the teasing, but I'll get cracking on the Documentation ASAP! :)

Wow! I never used the one for vB2.X, but this sounds great!

There never was one for vB2. At least, I never made one for vB2.

If you're thinking about vBHacker, that was made by Chen, not me, and it was not anywhere near this advanced, complete or powerful. :)
(but it wasn't necessary cos vB2 wasn't as advanced, complete or powerful as vB3 is, either :D)

w00ters to the hack!

Will use it, and suggest all other vB hackers to use it!

So is this getting released soon? im just wondering as ive kinda walked in on the deep end here, but this seems a brilliant idea :D. I take it this runs a small .exe on your system a bit like the yabb hack installer. If i remeber it was able to do all sorts of things, like test install on files etc, let you view 2 files at once so u could make changes etc. Maybe worth a little look to help with your dev www.yabbse.com anyway if its all php etc then wow!!

but id deff consider a small exe that could be updated with new vbulletin versions etc, much like the yabb version.

YaBB sucks so much balls it's not even funny anymore. Their code is so unreliable that they should be shot (in their balls) (with shotguns) (from up close) as punishment for their crimes (those being: publishing YaBB with that code of theirs).


The Hack Tracking Log is a very simple PHP installation with 3 file edits. You'll notice that it's much better than YaBB once you install it.



I hope to release the HTL this week! :)

yeah i know yabb is pants but i mean look at this little app :

http://www.boardmod.org/downloads.php#2.5.3

Any progress on this hack (or better script for hacks) :)

I would like to see this in a final state before or as soon as the vb gold version is out cause I will start hacking then and not before :D

The HTL will probably be released this week, and RC3 isn't even out yet (but will come this week as well, probably...).



I wouldn't trust or rely on that thing if my life depended on it... the .exe's related to YaBB have caused more harm than good.